Still there, still acceptably fat. Weird ice, temperature probably just below.
Roberttaylor - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/15
SPD224 - AltLd - 30/May/15 with Martin Smith
Was going to finish up Smiths but weather and slushy ice mad us decide against it.
Robertgiddy - Lead - 23/May/15
great ice conditions still! fat and solid with good placements and screws. nice and steep at the top
Webster - Solo O/S - 02/May/15
picasso - AltLd - 25/Apr/15
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/15
Andrew Holden - Solo - 19/Apr/15
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/15
Good nick and a lovely little route - a couple of steep steps that felt at the upper end of what you would expect for a III, but possibly it melts out a bit and steepens up late in the season
Rob84 - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/15 with Mike Dudley, Mel
Hidden - AltLd - 16/Apr/15
colin fagan - 2nd - 12/Apr/15
Took a right hand variation on 2nd pitch. Ice still fat. Did before Indicator.
Andy Hewison - AltLd - 11/Apr/15 with Drew Connelly
A consolation for Smiths being out of nick
Scotsken - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Jamie Evans
Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/15
jamieevans - AltLd - Apr/15
MatthewH - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/15 with Jim Symon, Andy S
Icefall in amazing condition. steep at top for a III. Slopes above in v poor condition, making exit via Tower Gully a non starter and the traverse to exit up Tower ridge similar. Traversed left 25m and abbed back down from Abalakhov's.
stratandrew - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/15 with Matt Harrigan, Jim Symon
En route to Smiths. Led P1.
alexm198 - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/15 with Oli Giles
Leading Alex and Josh up their first scottish 3. In good condition.
RosePearson - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/15 with Josh Abrahams
Out of body death experience on ledge
simrun - 2nd O/S - 24/Mar/15
Old Ross and young Ross climbed together for doe silver evidence. Me and bill followed them up.
nicjbuk - 2nd - 21/Mar/15 with BILL BUTTERWORTH, ross nicol esq
David Woods - 2nd O/S - 21/Mar/15
Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/15
Quick solo on route to summit. Good ice all the way.
JackM92 - Solo O/S - 15/Mar/15
Hidden - Solo O/S - 15/Mar/15
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/15
Chris lead the majority, fun all the way.
alexmcmillan - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/15 with Chris Acheson
Anna_wells - 15/Mar/15
Hidden - Solo - 14/Mar/15
calumhicks - Solo O/S - 14/Mar/15 with Adam Harris
Harry Holmes - Solo rpt - 13/Mar/15
Fat and easy
gripped01 - Lead - 10/Mar/15 with Dan Graves
En route to Smith's Route. Felt more like canyoning due to the amount of water around.
alastairbegley - AltLd O/S - 08/Mar/15 with Jason
Hidden - Mar/15
Butler! - 2nd - Mar/15
joe.91 - AltLd O/S - 21/Feb/15 with Rob Reglinski, Andy Harrison
Little AndyH - AltLd O/S - 21/Feb/15
Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Feb/15
First full on ice route. Nothing But I've from bottom to top. Climbed as a three. I lead top pitch. First ever snow belay, buried axes, deadman and bucket seat just in case. Excellent condition and route
sjbrook - AltLd O/S - 14/Feb/15 with Julian Sorrell, Joe PCC, PCC
JHiley - 2nd - 14/Feb/15 with PCC
Brilliant little route definitely worth waiting for. Spanish party of 6 infront of us. Thick ice all the way, taking 22cm screws in places. Lead p2 with BS belay at the top.
joe hallam - AltLd O/S - 12/Feb/15 with matt hardy
Fat ice. Continued up gully and up ice wall on right. Traversed right under cornice to top out.
davkeo - Solo O/S - 11/Feb/15
rob16 - AltLd - 07/Feb/15 with Matt Brook
Slightly dubious ice in places, but generally good.
mike_w18 - Lead rpt - 03/Feb/15 with Neil
Liam Watson - Solo - Feb/15
Hidden - Lead - 26/Jan/15
Lead 1st pitch, first ever lead thanks to Chris, who shadowed me.
mjsmith1973 - AltLd - 18/Jan/15 with S.Ritson, C.Marlow
Hidden - Lead - 17/Jan/15
FionaNicholson - 2nd - 17/Jan/15
plain kitten - 2015
jamesh - 2nd - 28/Mar/14 with Jim Unwin
Brucemacrosson - Solo - 05/Apr/13
mzchambers - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/13 with Ben G
Ben Sharp - Solo - 11/Mar/13
Hidden - 06/Mar/13
Hidden - AltLd - Mar/13
al jackson - Lead - Mar/13
David Kay - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/13 with Paul Scott, Mel Michon
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 18/Feb/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Feb/13
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Feb/13
jaggy bunnet - AltLd - 16/Feb/13 with frazzy4
Led both pitches. Very thin. Rested on a screw at the top of the final vertical ice section.
James_L88 - Lead dog - 21/Jan/13 with Wyn Jones
mwatson - AltLd O/S - 01/Jan/13
ewen75 - Solo O/S - 2013
Andrew Holden - Solo - 2013
captain - 2013
On the way to check if Smiths was in. It wasn't.
JRae - 2nd - 31/Dec/12 with Ben Silvestre, M Watson
ross brinson - Solo - 21/Dec/12 with Chris Clifford, Thomas Moore
Sporting! Thin new ice with some new neve, mixed with old slightly detached ice and good old neve with a helping of fresh crud!
Northern Mountain Monkey - 04/Apr/12
Climbed in a three. Oceanic led both pitches, I was "bottom-feeder". Very soft and thin, plenty of icefall even though we made a very early start (finishing the route about 10am). Good for practicing "delicate" techniques!
Blue Straggler - 2nd O/S - 24/Mar/12
Started up the first pitch at 7am in the morning. Was glad of the early start as everything started to fall down later that day.
Oceanic - 24/Mar/12
Backed off the mixed bit at the end of P1.
John Holden - 2nd - 24/Mar/12 with Pete Sowerby, Martin Smith
Sally Hudson - 2nd - 23/Mar/12 with Alan Halewood
Large hole at top of first pitch.
Ken Applegate - Lead - 21/Mar/12 with Phil, John
Great ice, continued up Upper Tower Cascade Left
Ken Applegate - Lead - 19/Mar/12 with Simon, Tim
luckyjim - Solo - 18/Mar/12
HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Ben Turton, Nicky Hey
Andy Hewison - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Mark Chadwick
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/12
JimH - 2nd - 17/Mar/12
Tim Rodgers - Lead - 17/Mar/12 with Brendan Lavery
Led 1st pitch again in better style than the last time. Led up to just below top ice pitch with ice screw belay. Top pitch quite featured. Busy day.
climberuk - AltLd β - 17/Mar/12 with Drew, Nina
Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/12
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Mar/12
did first pitch. held up by another team. weather horrible so abbed off and walked out.
nicjbuk - Lead dnf - 10/Mar/12 with ross nicol esq
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Mar/12
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/12
Blurgy319 - 2nd rpt - 06/Mar/12
joeydurkin - Lead - 06/Mar/12
Simonfarfaraway - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/12 with Huw
One 60m pitch on way to smith's. Good ice and nice wee steep bit to finish.
machars - Lead - 04/Mar/12 with Bjorn Verduijn
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Mar/12
thomb - AltLd - 02/Mar/12
Hidden - AltLd - 02/Mar/12
alifin - 2nd - 01/Mar/12
mishtu - 2nd - 29/Feb/12
mjsmith1973 - 2nd - 26/Feb/12 with Mike Pescod
Crackin wee route
Owain - AltLd - 25/Feb/12 with Paul Reilly
Andy led P1. I led P2. Just above freezing so v wet. Plenty of ice in the scoop but going sugary on the surface. Several V threads left in at the belays was a huge help. Great fun on a day when not much was in and everyone else seemed to be giving up!
Freddie 1 - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Andyh83
Good ice. Got to base of Smith's route, but bailed in order to get back in time to watch Wales beat England
Cardi - 2nd O/S - 25/Feb/12 with Mike Wild
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/12
Tom Campbell - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/12
mark88 - Lead - 18/Feb/12 with Rona McIntosh
peter fetlar - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/12 with luke kenny, stewart
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/12
gordon henderson - Lead - 18/Feb/12 with MRT
texuspete - AltLd O/S - 14/Feb/12 with Ben Robotham
TeeBee - AltLd - 13/Feb/12
Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Feb/12
williamsd79 - 2nd - 11/Feb/12
Hidden - AltLd - Feb/12
Hidden - AltLd - 31/Jan/12
luckyjim - AltLd - 29/Jan/12 with D Helm
Great climb. I lead the first pitch and paddy the second. my legs refused to work after the first pitch. which wasnt ideal!
jimhall - AltLd O/S - 28/Jan/12 with Paddy
Jim led the first pitch and I had an unexpected first ice lead for the second pitch, good route felt hard for the grade
pclark - AltLd O/S - 28/Jan/12 with jimhall
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/12
climbed on the way to smith's. led one big 60m pitch then moved together till i reached the top and belayed off a couple of buried axes. good fun route at the grade.
James S - Lead O/S - 17/Jan/12 with sam
Pat-H - Lead - 16/Jan/12 with eve
Hidden - 2nd - 16/Jan/12
Good ice all the way and belayed off a buried axe on the snow slope above, which was starting to pile up with snow. Be careful.
Zoomer - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/12 with Guy Buckingham
Great warm up for indicator wall (though involved quite a traverse to link them up! Smith's would be more logical link) Tough for grade III today, more like IV at the top, good though, two distinct pitches. Hard to find a belay on the snow-slope above, be warned.....
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/12 with Sophie B
sophiecb - 2nd - 14/Jan/12 with Chad
guy757 - 14/Jan/12
david100 - 2nd - 13/Jan/12
Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jan/12
Blurgy319 - 2nd O/S - Jan/12
mishtu - 2nd - 2012
Hidden - 2nd - 2012
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2012
centurion05 - 2012
PAJames - 2012
Guy Wilson - 2012
mark88 - 2nd - 03/Apr/11 with Alex Vaughan
vaughany - Lead - 03/Apr/11 with mark patterson
Hidden - Solo - 29/Mar/11
Pretty good condition. Amy's first lead on ice.
jamestheyip - AltLd rpt - 27/Mar/11 with Amy Goodill
hey went right at the top which was good fun and way way way steeper than left which is for sissy's - word
Timo Austino - 26/Mar/11 with Nats
jcurley - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Chris Drinkwater, Malcolm rr
Hidden - AltLd - 26/Mar/11
Me P1 and Martin the harder P2. Excellent plastic ice, good screws.
John Holden - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Martin Smith
With Chris Pope. CIC Hut weekend.
MartF - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/11
bob johnson - AltLd - 07/Mar/11 with Al Borrett
Hidden - Lead - 07/Mar/11
Sally Hudson - 2nd - 06/Mar/11 with Mike Scott
nickhoward - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/11 with Gary Caswell
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/11
ruggystunts - AltLd - 06/Mar/11 with Nick
Hidden - Lead - 06/Mar/11
As approach route to Smith's. Good value for the grade
Martin Haworth - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/11 with Rob Gray
tim newton - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/11 with shaun dance
rob1 - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/11 with martin haworth
nice fat ice, dinner plating a bit, couldn't find any tech 4 though, but definately sustained
CurlyStevo - AltLd - 05/Mar/11 with Kenny
In great nic on beautiful sunny day.
ksneds - AltLd - 05/Mar/11 with stevo
Hidden - AltLd - 05/Mar/11
rcammack - Solo O/S - 04/Mar/11 with Harry Holmes
Harry Holmes - Solo O/S - 04/Mar/11 with Robbie Cammack
steven - AltLd O/S - 04/Mar/11 with Dave Ryder
alifin - 2nd - 03/Mar/11 with Guide (Donald King) + Aidan Roe
Hidden - Lead rpt - 03/Mar/11
Hidden - AltLd - 03/Mar/11
AB1965 - Mar/11
gripped01 - AltLd - Mar/11 with Dave Tait
Hidden - Solo O/S - 28/Feb/11
constant cascade of spindrift but really good nonetheless
Tom Redmond - AltLd O/S - 27/Feb/11 with mike watson
Mmmm... spindrift. Fat ice though.
Mr Fuller - AltLd O/S - 27/Feb/11 with Crazy Tom, Lisa Witty
Still not refrozen after the thaw but good climbing still throughout
Conan - 2nd O/S - 26/Feb/11 with Philippa Reader, Loz
Done in 3 pitches (middle pitch just a snow plod). I led pitch 1 through an awkward corner on water ice. Difficult but enjoyed it. Drew led top pitch.
climberuk - AltLd O/S - 05/Feb/11 with Drew
Shaw Brown - AltLd - 29/Jan/11 with peter metcalfe
Peter Metcalfe - AltLd - 29/Jan/11 with Cath Sullivan, Shaw Brown
carl_123 - 2nd rpt - 28/Jan/11
Plan B after bauiling off Observatory Ridge
robinsi197 - AltLd - 22/Jan/11 with Bryn
yellow - 2nd - 21/Jan/11
Spence22 - Lead O/S - 21/Jan/11 with Carl
gee-whizz - 2nd O/S - 14/Jan/11 with Tel-goatman, spike sellers
Toe bail popped off at the top which was a little scary...
buzby78 - Solo - 01/Jan/11
Hidden - 2011
adie84 - 2011
mwatson - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Tenko - 2011
Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011
Hidden - Lead - 02/May/10
In very good nick!
jamestheyip - Solo O/S - 02/May/10 with Peter
Hidden - Lead - 15/Apr/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/10
Excellent ice, which came as a surprise given the mild conditions. I led the first pitch as it looked harder, C led the second which turned out to be the crux - that'll learn her!
Simon Caldwell - AltLd - 10/Apr/10 with Carmen
Did it in two pitchs (plus a little cheeky middle one by Stu) before abseiling back down the route with a pair who did the same route.
MPSBunny - AltLd - 07/Apr/10 with Stu Coxon
Hidden - AltLd - 07/Apr/10
Good ice, bit thin in places. Final pitch was more like IV. Cracking route.
ckmoffat - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/10 with Sam, Graeme
Climbed with Dan. Scarey and tres cold.
NatD - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/10
suess - AltLd - 07/Mar/10
carl_123 - 2nd O/S - 05/Mar/10
Rick Ashton - Lead - Mar/10 with James King
yellow - 2nd - Mar/10
Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Jan/10
First climb climbing on the Ben! Inspiring place!
benrh09 - AltLd O/S - 12/Jan/10 with Rob Lay
Hidden - 2010
colinthrelfall - 2010
alancash100 - AltLd - 2010
kingjam - 2nd - 2010 with Rich Ashton, Craig Higgins, Matt Naylor
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Dec/09
Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Dec/09
First pitch, second pitch hard for grade three
The Mountain Goat - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/09 with Dom Sellers
Somerset swede basher - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/09 with Jon Miles
Including an incident!
Captain Solo - 2nd rpt - 15/Apr/09 with Ewan
Will led first pitch. I led and brought Will up to belay under top pitch, then led through. Pretty good ice, bit wet. Matt did it in 2 pitches
lithos - AltLd - 12/Apr/09 with matt hobby
Very nice route on thick, chewy (but wet) ice. I led the first pitch which was on easy angled and very amenable ice. Rob led the second which finished up a steep short step - certainly felt steep for grade III.
Will Smith - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/09 with Matt and Rob
Tim Sparrow - Solo - Apr/09
First winter lead. Excellent Ice all the way up the route. Not very nice conditions at top of route. Finished up Tower Gully after a plod up a scary snow slope!
nathan_kelly - Lead - 28/Mar/09 with Jimmy Coates.
Led top pitch direct up some steeper ice
adamscottthomas - AltLd - 20/Mar/09 with Andy Wardle
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Mar/09
suess - AltLd - 05/Mar/09
gripped01 - Lead rpt - Mar/09 with Colin Macalinden, Trail Magazine, Stu Quinn, Si Moore, Alex Tomczynski
Hidden - Lead - 25/Feb/09
first proper winter lead,steep 2nd pitch great wee route
Billy Walker - Bad Seller - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/09 with David pillok
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Feb/09
Hard water ice all the way with very little soft stuff generally. Top section near vertical, presume not banked out very much / lean. Felt hard for III.
stuaart - 2nd O/S - 15/Feb/09 with Thomas Smith, Neil Redgrave
thomasaneurinsmith - 2nd - 15/Feb/09 with Neil Redgrave, Stuart Reeves
Hidden - 2nd - 05/Jan/09
Becky E - 2nd - 03/Jan/09 with Phil Lee
stevepotter - Lead - 02/Jan/09 with steve taylor
mgeek - Solo O/S - 01/Jan/09 with Neill Busby
jimsrankin - AltLd O/S - Jan/09 with Al
Ross McGibbon - 2009
Greg Boswell - AltLd O/S - 30/Dec/08
HamishD - AltLd O/S - 29/Dec/08 with chris burn
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Dec/08
Mike Parker - AltLd - 28/Dec/08 with Dan Parker & James Ayre
Hidden - AltLd - 25/Apr/08
good climbing, with nice steep finish on slightly rotten ice.
adw07 - AltLd O/S - 23/Apr/08
Hidden - Solo - 22/Apr/08
mgg - 20/Apr/08 with SD
Hidden - AltLd - 19/Apr/08
Neil Mackenzie - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/08 with Andy
Two pitches of nice ice, pretty easy going.
andymoin - AltLd - 19/Apr/08 with Neil Mackenzie
Gustav - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/08 with Matt G
A good route.
Think it gets a grade III for it's short length relative to other routes on the Ben rather than the steepness of the ground.
Spindrift and fresh snowfall moving in with strong winds later on in the day was a shame.
Reckon ascending this route then descending down into the gully isn't suitable for beginners since the descent - a traverse then descent - is down a fairly steep snow slope - think if I did it again I'd continue to the top by one of the routes above. No bomb-proof belay at the top of the route either - just doing the best you can on a snow slope - icefall further up though.
Looked at point 5 but reckoned it looked climbable but not easily protectable.
Big avalanche risk building on Sunday night!
RobScotland - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/08 with Dan
Hidden - AltLd - 06/Apr/08
Stuart Macfarlane - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/08 with Jeanie
Captain Solo - 2nd rpt - 14/Mar/08 with Gary
Also with Dan Callaghan.
The ice was in good condition but we were worried about the descent, with a high avalanche risk in the gullies, so we backed off. Looks good, must go back another time.
Howard J - 02/Mar/08 with Dan Callaghan, Robin Illingworth
Hidden - Mar/08
luckyjim - AltLd - Mar/08 with C Hossack
Conditions were quite lean meaning the 2nd pitch was pretty steep towards the top. Can't remember the last time I used an ice-axe, bucket seat and waist belay in anger!
Gman - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/08 with Carl
Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/08
Karlos - AltLd - 18/Feb/08 with Mark B
chalk monster - AltLd - 18/Feb/08 with Karl
Lawrie Brand - 2nd O/S - 17/Feb/08 with David Lowell
newvena - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/08 with macker, dean & andy
Captain Solo - Solo - 17/Feb/08
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Feb/08
Fultonius - AltLd O/S - 15/Feb/08 with Burnsie
Ken Applegate - Lead - 14/Feb/08 with Hannah Evans
Hannah Evans - 2nd - 14/Feb/08 with Ken Applegate
al99 - AltLd - Feb/08 with Martina Zandonella
martinazando - 2nd O/S - Feb/08 with Al Benson
smac - 2008
John Pickles - AltLd O/S - 2008 with Tim Blakemore
Charlie wp Hill - AltLd - 2008
1st pitch felt quite exciting at grade III (still right a the grade though).
steev - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/07 with Fran
hard water ice for the first 20 yards, leading to softer ice, more yielding to blunt picks!
BallsOfSteel - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/07 with IainMunro
Hidden - AltLd - 03/Apr/07
suess - AltLd - 01/Apr/07
Decided it was nearer IV under conditions we experienced, no build up just ice.
JDSwain - 19/Feb/07 with Andy Nisbet
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Feb/07
gripped01 - Lead O/S - Feb/07 with Ru Capleton
alan wilson - 2007
Hidden - 2007
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 2007
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2007
Rob Pitt - 2007 with Helen Pitt
Hidden - AltLd - 07/Mar/06
reg_measures - Lead O/S - Jan/06 with beth, claire
Hidden - 2006
frost - Solo - Mar/05 with D Garry N Griffiths
Hidden - Lead O/S - Feb/05
Yourlead - 2nd - 30/Jan/05 with Graham Penny
Felt hard for a III
George Ormerod - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/04 with Roger
icescrew - AltLd - Mar/04 with The Fox
tom.e - 2nd dnf - Feb/04 with Charlie Everett
michaelb1 - Lead - Feb/04
niall_mac - AltLd - Apr/03 with am_bodach
crowberry gully - 13/Apr/02 with Ross McGibbon
Jamie B - Lead - Apr/02 with Charlie Stanniforth
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 25/Mar/02
MarkDavies36 - AltLd O/S - Feb/02 with Richard Bentley
NeilGriffiths - Solo - 15/Apr/00 with James, Dave, Simon
cem - 2nd - 13/Mar/00 with Andy M, Bruce G
Hidden - Mar/00
akhughes - 2000
Backed off second pitch
Marq - AltLd O/S - Dec/99 with Rich Cole, Martin P
Hidden - Solo - 20/Mar/99
Dave Almond - Solo - 1999
Hidden - 01/Mar/98
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Jan/98
MarkDavies36 - AltLd O/S - 1998 with Richard Bentley
Louis Hume - Lead - 1998 with Mustillos
Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/97
Hidden - 2nd - 04/Mar/97
Smith42 - 1997
Hidden - Solo - Feb/96
JiveWeasel - 2nd - May/95 with Al H and TP
Hidden - Lead - Jan/89
uphillnow - Lead - Feb/87 with Andy Bennett, Brian barker
Mark Kemball - Solo - 29/Mar/84
Nigel Bond - AltLd - 17/Mar/81 with Tony Cuddy, Martin Crosby
White-out and much spindrift. Retreated down Tower Gully afterwards.
Sean Kelly - AltLd - Feb/77 with Ian Roberts
Hidden - 1975
Hidden - Lead - 27/Mar/71