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Zig Zag*** VS 4b

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64m, 2 pitches. Another exciting classic taking an airy rising-traverse up the ramps and grooves. 1) 4b, 40m. Start below the square capping overhang at 6m. Zig up to a grassy ledge on the left at 6m, then zag back rightwards up the steep wall to another grassy ledge. Zig left into a short groove and keep heading left to the foot of a rightward-trending groove. Zag up this to a grassy belay. 2) 4b, 28m. Head up rightwards to the grassy ledge and aim for the black groove 6m right of the belay. Climb straight up to the top and belay well back. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Connoisseur's Classic Rock, North Wales Rock Graded List, ROCKFAX Style Top 50: North Wales.

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This climb is in 116 logbooks, and on 25 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/14

HB-Pencil - 2nd - 16/Sep/14

Lead last pitch
grivers86 - AltLd O/S - 13/Sep/14 with Martyn Frost

Pitch 1
erbridger - AltLd - 25/Jun/14 with nedly14

nedly - AltLd - 25/Jun/14 with Emily Bridger

twoplates - AltLd - 23/Jun/14 with Sally Wheatley

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 23/Jun/14 with Pete Kelly

sian88 - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/14

dave657 - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14 with Alys

Dizz - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/14 with zof

Led p1, easy enough but very little gear
Pete_Frost - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Chris Tym

mike mo - 2014

Hidden - AltLd - 2014

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Jul/13

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 16/Jul/13 with James West

a bold first VS lead!
JamesLloyd - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/13

Great route, nice one James , first vs
Dan724 - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/13 with James Lloyd

SimonvanDam - Lead - 06/May/13

P2, still wet depsite the 3 weeks of nice weather
Ollie B - AltLd O/S - 30/May/12 with C.Clifford

2nd pitch
kdalzell - AltLd - 25/May/12 with Jill Plummer

Hidden - 26/Mar/12

P2 which was wet in a couple of places. Easy climbing.
jezb1 - AltLd - 25/Mar/12

a13x - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/11 with Matthew Murphy

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/11

Good fun, but not a classic. Nothing really stands out, though still worthwhile. Rift Wall was much more memorable. Some slightly dubious rock, occasionally sparse gear and confusing top out/ final belay (continue to top - set quite far back, or walk up the slippy grassy slope to what's probably the best belay position?).
andyjirvin - Lead O/S - 01/May/11

Led P2.
Owen W-G - AltLd O/S - 01/May/11 with Preston Matt

Led first pitch with only 3 pieces of gear. Terrifying.
Matt77 - Lead O/S - 01/May/11 with Owen

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Apr/11

IAmAStone - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/11

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Apr/11

nice easy climbing with spaced gear, a touch damp in places however.
benkelsey - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with Remus Knowles

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/11

Lead the second pitch in dry weather. Watch the greese and water on this pitch!
Daymo - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with DJ

deejmonkey - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with Damian

vertically_challenged - AltLd O/S - Apr/11

sam lead 1st, I lead 2nd, Super wet and nasty! Also there is a very loose huge piece of slate at the top! should be moved before it lands on some one,
surfboybert - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/11 with sam hinton

Hidden - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Loose rock near top is very big and about to go
Rob Evans - Lead O/S - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

JasonV - AltLd - 05/Sep/10 with Phil

Alaina - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Esther Seddon

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 16/Aug/10

mr mills - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/10 with Chris

Be perpared for some crap gear placements on pitch 1,very bold and 4b.
ritchierich - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/10 with Andy McQue, Vinny

poor gear on snappy looking holds on first pitch glad i lead second
vinspin - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/10 with ritchie, andy

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Jun/10

Tim Ducker - AltLd O/S - 21/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Jun/10

1st pitch Ali. 2nd pitch Chris B
Ali H - AltLd - 20/Jun/10 with Chris B

Jess patel - AltLd - 19/Jun/10

Liam Ingram - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Tabea Fiechter

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/10

stuart34 - 2nd - 16/Jun/10 with tim ashlin

Led 2nd Pitch
Lenny - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/10 with James. D

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/May/10

feilx - Solo O/S - 28/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/May/10

Hidden - AltLd - 26/May/10

fizzychewitt - AltLd - 25/May/10 with Jayne

Hidden - AltLd - 16/May/10

TimPerkin - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10 with Mark Perkin

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/10

Hidden - AltLd - May/10

Gear took some imagination...
Alex Thompson - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/10 with Jon Thompson

wet on both pitches, with rod and alun ward
michael burrows - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10 with Alun Ward

Hidden - 2nd - Apr/10

sionjosh - 2010

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Apr/09

a bit wet but fun
Sardien - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/09 with Matthew Jaques

Sally Lisle - 2009

SMc - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/08 with Anne

barni - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Liam fleming

Hidden - Lead dnf - 07/Jun/08

John Dale - Lead - 31/May/08 with Erik Schaberg

First pitch is good. Second pitch felt more of a bimble than VS 4b, but I may have gone off route...
My Gravity - Lead O/S - 26/May/08 with Ben P

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/May/08

chris wyatt - 06/May/08 with sandrine

Owain Llewelyn - AltLd - 22/Apr/08 with Phil

Sean Kelly - 2008

Hidden - Lead - 13/Oct/07

ChalkBall - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/07 with Rob Shepherd

craig h - AltLd O/S - 05/May/07 with Janet Hannah

Dunx - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/07 with Culley and Libby

Libby - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/07 with Dunx and Culley

mlmatt - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/07 with chris jones

Rampikino - Lead - 23/Jul/06 with Cat

Andy Clarke - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/03 with SteveW

keith leonard - 2002

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/01

Andy Say - Lead - 13/Aug/97

colin milton - AltLd - 17/Jun/94 with eric milton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/94

WB - Lead O/S - 1992

PaulHermes - 1991

Babika - Lead O/S - 01/May/90 with James Compton

Ched - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/88 with Glanfor

Hidden - Lead - 13/Apr/88

nigehughes - Lead - Jul/83 with John Horn

Melok - AltLd - 1983

Melok - AltLd - 1983

Hidden - 1980

tapley - Lead - 16/Jul/77 with Alison Tapley

mikej - Lead - 08/Jun/76 with Tony Waite

Bolt Phobia - 22/May/75

rogerskews - AltLd - 1975 with Various

granitbahn - AltLd - 1974

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Style of ascent

Soloed2 of 116 (1.7%)
Lead34 of 116 (29.3%)
Followed6 of 116 (5.2%)
Alt Leads56 of 116 (48.3%)
Unknown18 of 116 (15.5%)

'Climbed'54 of 116 (46.6%)
clean O/S61 of 116 (52.6%)
dnf1 of 116 (0.9%)