Shorty's Dilemma S 4a
10m. A line straight up the face starting from a conspicuous hole two metres right of the arete. © ROCKFAX
Go straight up the wall 2 metres right of Old Corner. Starting by an obvious hole.
Tony Marr, Mike Tooke, Frank Fitzgerald, 1988
PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 209 logbooks, and on 2 wishlists.

robertmichaeladams - Lead - 27/Sep/14 with Mike Lelliott, Bex

MikeLell - Solo O/S - 27/Sep/14

dakidunn - Lead - 21/Sep/14 with Michael Ludwig McCorkindale

Sciguy - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/14 with Mark

benthomas.online - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Scott Haslam

Mickdenali - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Sarah Walker

Wizzy - Solo O/S - 23/Aug/14

Calum Wadsworth - Solo O/S - 20/Aug/14 with S.O.C

Hidden - 22/Jul/14

crater - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/14 with alastair

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Jun/14

redshapedfriday - Lead O/S - 15/May/14 with Mike Watling

CJP - Lead O/S - 10/May/14 with Tom holdsworth

jshields - Solo - 19/Apr/14

must have done it before !
lithos - Lead - 15/Apr/14 with Puma

Done before but still a fun route to climb.
Puma - 2nd - 15/Apr/14 with Rob Stone

2010_graham - TR O/S - 14/Apr/14 with blue-icefox

adamwesthead - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/14 with Dan

nick ferro - 09/Mar/14 with Oli Birkill

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Mar/14

Mountainclimber21 - 2nd - 2014 with Adam clark

Had dilemma. Was Short. Joe seconded.
HazelMacLean - Lead O/S - 24/Nov/13

BnB - 25/Sep/13

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Sep/13

Unknownbiker - Lead - 28/Aug/13 with CMC

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/13

IanHope - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with KatyHope

katyhope - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with IanHope

Pike - 2nd O/S - 04/Aug/13 with Matt Wilkinson

Nice warm-up. Satisfying moves.
mattwilk - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/13 with Mike

Hidden - 2nd β - Aug/13

Puma - Solo - 30/Jul/13

cherad - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/13 with Louise Bell

Chalky Cat - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Dom

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jul/13

smee87 - TR O/S - 17/Jul/13 with Robbie Roberts

colin milton - Solo - 07/Jul/13

Stickle Tarn - Lead O/S - Jul/13

As warm up
ralphio - 2nd - 24/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/13

theomoore - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/13

rob.grafton - 04/Jun/13 with Martin Smith, Jim

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13

roperat - Solo - Jun/13

Hidden - Lead - 16/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead - Mar/13

bclifton - Lead - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Dibdawg - Solo O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Scott Haslam

Nice easy climbing
chipdidychip - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/12 with Joe Jarosz

Hidden - TR - 10/Sep/12

papashango - Solo - 05/Sep/12

Ian Hinkins - Solo - 02/Sep/12

Harry Holmes - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/12 with Steph S

al_robinson76 - TR O/S - 30/Jul/12 with Jim Mitchell, James Jorgensen

a13x - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/12 with Tom Rayson

GemRS - TR O/S - 10/Jun/12 with Lisa

Harri777 - Lead - 27/May/12 with Alexis

mzchambers - Solo O/S - 26/May/12

taz21 - 2nd - 28/Mar/12 with William Jackson, Arthur Gregory

Connorsgrandad - Lead - 28/Mar/12 with taz21

stevenknowles - 2nd - 24/Mar/12 with Andy Carr

robertmichaeladams - Lead - 18/Mar/12 with Bex, Bethan

ianjfsutcliffe - Solo O/S - 19/Feb/12 with Coatesy

roperat - Lead - 13/Jan/12 with Matt U

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2012

Witsend3 - Lead - 2012

Hidden - TR O/S - 10/Nov/11

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/11

Understand the name, ran it out from under half height because I gave chuck my 3.5 cam... made it more interesting
vix - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/11 with Lucy

Jon Didymus - Solo O/S - 18/Aug/11

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jul/11

kato'sdad - 2nd - 14/Jul/11 with Jon Lewis

Hidden - 02/Jul/11

munch88 - 2nd - 29/Jun/11 with rob

robblowen - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/11 with Munch

Bloke on a Rope - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Matt

spragglerocks - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/11 with Mike

munch88 - Solo O/S - 31/May/11

Klingon - 2nd - 21/May/11 with John

pmordue - Lead O/S - 16/May/11

stright up no worries, good end to the day
sam_lav - 2nd O/S - 12/May/11 with lewis frasier

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/May/11

Route name says it all, good job im not a shorty!
Liam Martin - Lead O/S - 10/May/11 with Shaun Duke

Dafydd Llywelyn - Solo - 06/May/11 with Alec Smith

Hidden - Solo O/S - 02/May/11

Ellie79 - 2nd - 30/Apr/11 with Craig

edmund94 - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11

Michael Whitley - Lead - 20/Apr/11 with James Gowdy

mataius - 16/Apr/11

mdwilson - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/11

Hidden - Solo O/S - 10/Apr/11

AC - 2nd O/S - 10/Apr/11

adamwesthead - 2nd O/S - 08/Apr/11 with Pete, Zeb

zebster - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/11 with Pete, Adam

gowdy - Lead O/S - Apr/11 with Michael Whitley

adamjc13 - Lead - Apr/11 with Andy Little

Jack00 - Solo O/S - 19/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd β - 11/Mar/11

povrs50 - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/11

Mitch1990 - Solo - 07/Mar/11

Anthony Dixon - Sent - 06/Mar/11

APRS - Solo - 2011 with Dafydd Llwelyn

rumtramp - Lead - 2011

danny33 - Solo - 2011

jac00 - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Tom

yorkyrmcdo - Lead - Oct/10

Jimmy1976 - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/10 with Simon

phleppy - Solo - 19/Aug/10

markfairbank - Solo rpt - 11/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead - 18/Jul/10

maggie505 - Lead - 11/Jul/10 with Clair MacIntosh

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/10

abercolin - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Hayley Riggs

Hidden - 16/Jun/10

scallan022 - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/10 with scottie390

cjbaker - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/10 with Chris Chinnick, Jack Sage

vincentchopper - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/10 with Chris Chinnick, Chris Baker

Richiehill - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/10

yatess79 - Lead O/S - Jun/10 with Paul Harris

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/10

mfisher - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10 with Brian

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/May/10

PeteH - Solo O/S - 02/May/10 with Noel Peatfield

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Apr/10

richie88 - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/10

markalmack - Solo rpt - 24/Apr/10

simon kimber - Solo O/S - 24/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 17/Apr/10

simonward - Solo - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo - 02/Apr/10

katykoo - TR - 2010 with andy hamilton, adam hutchison

Andy Graham - 2010

Tom Wayman - Lead O/S - 2010

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Oct/09

John Pickles - 2nd - 26/Sep/09 with Andrew Morton

tobydunford - Solo O/S - 24/Aug/09

markfairbank - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/09 with Sandra Lee

JWB - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/09 with Lucy Adams

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/09

hoyle118 - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/09 with Kieran

tom heaney - Lead - Aug/09

Ben.hopkinson - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/09 with Pam Rozniakowski

Christian Beck - Solo O/S - Jul/09

easy climb
rowanorton - TR O/S - 24/Jun/09 with itchy

climbing_rocks1983 - 14/Jun/09 with Petey

Hedley - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09 with Aldred Durham

aldred - 2nd rpt - 08/Jun/09 with hedley procter

duzinga - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Jie

DerwentDiluted - Solo - 26/Apr/09

berni87 - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/09

jadm2 - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09

scott mayled - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09

creakyknees - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/09 with Lynne Webster

Lordcarr - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Spencer

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Mar/09

Col Kingshott - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Solo - 28/Oct/08

Peter Howlett - 2nd - 24/Sep/08

Hidden - TR dog - 20/Aug/08

gilldando - 2nd - 20/Aug/08 with Mike

aldred - Solo O/S - 15/Aug/08

hawkins321 - Solo - 05/Aug/08

Hidden - Solo O/S - Aug/08

Rubbish Gear Placement Opportunities
davebold2008 - Lead - Aug/08 with James Cambell

Simonj - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/08 with Steve

Adam1973 - Lead rpt - 15/Jul/08 with Jon Lury

Very reachy, not sure how Carmen managed to reach the holds - probably good technique, which counts as cheating in my book.
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/08 with Carmen

blackreaver - TR O/S - Jul/08 with Bewerly

cem - Solo O/S - 28/Jun/08

bridget143 - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/08 with Ruth Moulton

kitch22 - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/08 with Jo Hollis

Col Kingshott - Lead O/S - 23/May/08

Hidden - Lead - 17/Feb/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Feb/08

Aussie Mick - Solo O/S - 06/Aug/07

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/07 with Erica

erica - 2nd - 08/Jun/07 with John

PanzerHanzler - 2nd O/S - 24/May/07 with David Rafe

I am short and yes it was bloomin hard for me- however a taller mate flashed it no prbs so the name is highly appropriate!
gilldando - 2nd - 07/May/07 with tommy

jamescarter - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Kathryn Langham

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/07

sargy - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/07 with Pete Stollery

Phil Latham - Lead dog - Apr/07 with Pete Stollery

Hidden - Solo - Jan/07

darcy1 - 2007 with Mad Cow

tallan9 - 2007

Brown - Solo O/S - 13/Nov/06

mikekeswick - Lead O/S - Nov/06

The start is the crux, with sparse pro at the top
kwickfit - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/06 with chris hull

Quite a nice climb really, not much gear though at the top.
VS4b - Lead - 04/Jul/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/06

Elsier - 2nd - May/06 with Ian

markalmack - Solo RP - 2006

Iain Thomson - 2nd - Jul/05 with Sarah, james, and Nick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/05

gonzo_ls9 - Lead O/S - 2005 with nol, d dickey

antroy - Lead - 01/Apr/04

johancilliers - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/03

SteveM - Solo - 29/Mar/03

dougiestein - 2nd - Mar/01

Jonathan Richardson - Lead - 2000

Andy Say - Solo - 30/Aug/99

rocktigger - Lead O/S - Mar/98 with lee + shelby

Dave Musgrove - Solo - 1975

antroy - 0000

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
mike96, Davie Thomson

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