Pioneers of the Hypnotic Groove*** 7b
[Me at the top of Pioneers, 3 kb]

Rockfax Description
The classic endurance test of the crag. Ignore the first belay. © ROCKFAX

UKC Logbook Description
This takes the obvious groove up the back of the main cave. Don't be put off by the sometimes damp holds at the start - the rest is fantastic. Start slightly left of the groove, moving up to gain the conglomerate ledge for a good hands off rest. From here some fancy footwork and a few big moves allow progress higher into the groove and (hopefully) to an intermediate belay where the angle eases. For an extra pump, and the full tick, continue up the recently-regeared No Epoxy Au Oxley to a higher belay.

Goi Ashmore 19/Apr/1996

Ticklists: South Wales Sevens.

Photo: Me at the top of Pioneers © stuwelly85
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This climb is in 117 logbooks, and on 21 wishlists.

The steepest route I have ever tried. This one will test your endurance!
sasomsok - Lead RP - 29/Aug/15 with ZClegg, JoshuaLewis

OERees - Lead rpt - 15/Aug/15

Awesome line, great climbing.
millsy - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/15 with Jo Fullman

bigie bob - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/15

TomJ - Lead dog - 25/May/15 with DanC

Absolutely sopping and clayey which is a Shane cus it looks amazing! Will have to come back
hankyc - Lead dnf - 24/May/15

Hidden - Lead RP - 26/Apr/15

Hardest I've fought in 2015! Great line. To the top.
Jon_Warner - Lead RP - 19/Apr/15 with Tom Jordan, Jenni

mikeshewring - Lead RP - 08/Apr/15 with Martyn Richards, sharpie

Hidden - Lead β - Apr/15

mikeshewring - Lead dog - Mar/15 with sharpie

Hidden - Lead rpt - 21/Feb/15

Brilliant route, best I've done at the Gower. Bone dry bar very top pocket despite recent rain and seepage on other lines.
Justin T - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/14 with Nancy

Tim W - Lead dog - 04/Oct/14 with Ali Kennedy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/14

The ascent involved lots of blood and shouting. Horribly greasy!
ollie_e - Lead RP - 27/Sep/14 with Tomar

2 working goes and then 4th redpoint. Top route.
Chubbard - Lead RP - 21/Sep/14 with Tomar

just one more - Lead dog - 30/Aug/14 with lucas

LucasHarazin - Lead RP - 30/Aug/14 with Steve Barnard

1st red point, one of the best 7b's I've done! So much fun!
chrisscutt - Lead RP - 23/Aug/14 with ant

A few goes using silly beta, then I worked out new beta (right hand in the undercut from the knobly hold) and left it at that. Should go easy next time
Tomar - Lead dog - 17/Aug/14 with "Henry"

Great route. So steep
anthony henry - Lead RP - 17/Aug/14 with tomar

Got to the top clip to clip. Gonna have to come back because this route is A BELTER. Felt pretty wrecked with no skin and was time to leave but am desperate to try to RP.
andyman666999 - Lead dog - 17/Aug/14 with Ross

Sarah Black - Lead rpt - 03/Aug/14 with Paul Black

Went all the way to the top of crag today. Good glory climbing doesnt add to difficulty but well worth doing
brices - Lead rpt - 08/Jun/14 with Llinos

Hidden - Lead RP - Jun/14

2 attempts
alek - Lead dog - 05/May/14 with Alexander Bell

Climbed twice, the second time with the extension to the top. Awesome route!
owain86 - Lead RP - 18/Apr/14 with Eugene, Chris

Did it with 1 rest. RP time
eugeneth - Lead dog - 18/Apr/14 with Chris Carroll, Owain

An amazing line.
Wendy - Lead RP - 12/Apr/14 with Llinos

brices - Lead rpt - 12/Apr/14 with Llinos

Kyuzo - Lead O/S - Apr/14

Few training laps
brices - Lead rpt - 30/Mar/14 with Llinos

Need to do some serious stamina training to make this more than just a pipe dream! Cracking line.
Adam_42 - Lead dog - 23/Mar/14 with Beth, Ben

Awesome! 2nd go. Greasy. Close to the on-sight but pumped out just before the end of the hard stuff.
quiffhanger - Lead RP - 07/Oct/13

Billg - Lead RP - 01/Sep/13 with Monty, Carl Watkins

2nd go. Pretty chuffed. Some cool moves
monsteratt - Lead RP - 01/Sep/13 with Bill, Carl

Hidden - Lead RP - 01/Sep/13

keithpeck - Lead RP - 26/Aug/13 with James Andrews

Daniel - Lead dog - 24/Aug/13 with Tom

Hidden - Lead β - 07/Aug/13

Laurence Everitt - Lead dog - 07/Aug/13 with Jay Kay

Hidden - Lead RP - 07/Aug/13

owain86 - Lead dog - 24/Jul/13 with Alun, Greg

Hidden - Lead RP - 19/Jul/13

OERees - Lead RP - 05/Jul/13

Dave Cale - Lead RP - Jul/13

guy xavier percival - Lead RP - 31/May/13 with paul

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/May/13

Very cool. Would like to try again when it is dry and I'm feeling strong - proper anti-style!
Jon_Warner - Lead dog - 19/May/13 with Jenni

Hidden - 2nd dog - 17/May/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 03/May/13

khawk - Lead β - 03/May/13 with DT

2nd RP. Awesome climbing, first 7b!
partz - Lead RP - 01/May/13 with Alex Wade

tskelhon - Lead RP - May/13 with John_Warner

First effort. Got to the top atleast, start working on Wednesday...
partz - Lead dog - 28/Apr/13 with Joe McCarty

on someone elses draws, brilliant route very 3d and interesting climbing
brices - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/13 with Joe Day

Getting dark!
DorsetGareth - Lead dnf - 18/Mar/13 with Mike Wigglesworth

Wasn't expecting it but just kept going to the top. Fine route
chris wyatt - Lead RP - 14/Mar/13 with John Bullock

Hidden - Lead RP - 17/Feb/13

Excellent route, very unique for the UK.
Jon Garside - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Becky

The full thing. No BS.
cjsheps - Lead RP - 28/Aug/12

Training Laps!
MorganPreece - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/12 with Matt Smith

Greasy holds once again!
OERees - Lead dog - 29/May/12

Kevster - Lead dog - 06/May/12

Probably the best 7b I have done in this country. Amazing
Cailean Harker - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/12

OERees - Lead dog - 14/Feb/12

Reached the third bolt, on a very cold day, but was in the wrong mentality to continue with the rest of the route - must come back when it's a bit warmer!
OERees - Lead dnf - 14/Jan/12

to the top this time
Dan_Carroll - Lead RP - 18/Dec/11 with jonskippy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11

Fucking awesome, dreamt of a feature like this.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/11 with Tommy Cole, Chris Carroll, Eugene Theron

wicked route
Caspian Johnson - Lead RP - 14/Jun/11 with josh price, james andrews

Hidden - Lead RP - 04/Jun/11

ah yes. brilliant fun if a little bit of a struggle.
Dan_Carroll - Lead RP - 10/May/11 with caspian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11

First attempted at SWMC Beginner's Day 2009, completed at SWMC Beginner's Day 2011.
DafSWMC - Lead RP - 17/Apr/11 with Tim, Christian

Christian Reynish - 2nd dnf - 17/Apr/11 with Daffyd Jones

Final hold, fell clipping chain but my momentum clipped it! About as close as it gets!!! :)
cjsheps - Lead dog - 09/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 13/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead RP - 13/Mar/11

Hidden - 2011

Caspian Johnson - 2nd dog - 29/Sep/10 with simon robinson

Hidden - Lead RP - 11/Sep/10

James Marshall - Lead RP - Sep/10

d_meacher - 2nd dog - 30/Aug/10 with Mike Thomas

crispyboy - Lead dog - 30/Aug/10 with sean cullen

Hidden - TR dog - 29/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead β - 29/Aug/10

Second go.
colesy - Lead RP - 14/Aug/10

_m.cox_ - 2nd β - Aug/10 with Ben West

Hidden - Lead RP - 17/Jul/10

RD - Lead - Jul/10

Good stuff, really wet and greasy had to come down climb from 3rd clip and wait for it to dry up, but really fun solid 7b! but a jug fest! if you have endurance its a gift at the grade!
MorganPreece - Lead β - 06/Jun/10 with Will

Hidden - Lead dog - 05/Jun/10

irish paul - Lead - 05/Jun/10 with Dave Ripley

Hidden - Lead RP - 13/Mar/10

Tim W - Lead dnf - 06/Mar/10 with Paul Black

rhoslynfrugtniet - Lead - Mar/10

Hidden - Lead RP - 28/Feb/10

irish paul - Lead dog - 14/Feb/10 with Julian

AshWH - Lead β - 2010

first 7b.
BicepAndrews - Lead RP - 24/May/09 with Connor Bybee

selman - Lead RP - 24/May/09 with Connor Bybee

Christian Reynish - 2nd dnf - 10/May/09 with Daffyd Jones

Hidden - Lead dnf - 09/May/09

irish paul - Lead - 09/May/09 with Dave Ripley

simonr - Lead RP - 01/May/09 with Jon Freeman

BicepAndrews - Lead dog - 23/Apr/09 with Laith Selman

Hidden - Lead RP - 23/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead RP - 21/Mar/09

Al Rosier's beta gets me up another route!
Billg - Lead β - 21/Mar/09 with Sean Cullens

jfreeman - Lead RP - 22/Apr/08 with Simon Robinson

Hidden - 2008

stuwelly85 - Lead dog - Nov/06 with Simon Robinson

adrianjenner - 2nd dog - Feb/06

In the sopping wet. First Ascent.
goi.ashmore - Lead RP - 19/Apr/96 with Simon Coles, James Tracey

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