Hidden - 2nd dog - 14/Jun/09

whiting.jp - Lead - 14/Jun/09 with jamesca

Even using the vegetated crack to the right, this climb is still very hard and almost certainly undergraded at VS 5a, unless maybe you've got 6 ft arms. Backed off.
howlingbaboon - Lead dnf - 10/Aug/08 with Chris FitzHugh

With graham on first ascent of this. Tried to lead it again, but found move up to pocket a long stretch and would not commit. Then all climbed it in various poor styles on top rope. I think perhaps we used foot jam in RH crack on first ascent. Slopey holds above pocket arent much use either. A direct eliminate would be more like HVS 5c, It will only go at VS if RH crack is used, with an escape left from pocket, then move back onto the face to finish
Pilch - Lead dnf - 22/Sep/07 with Graham and Lloyd