Derision Groove** MVS 4b
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P.Ross J.Wood 27/Feb/1955

Ticklists: Shepherd's Crag - top 25.

PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 245 logbooks, and on 3 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/14

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Oct/14

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Oct/14

Nigel Bond - Lead - 27/Sep/14 with John Sullivan

Oft mentioned wobbly block on 2nd pitch is still there
Johnsulli - 2nd - 27/Sep/14

John Brayshaw - 2nd rpt - 20/Sep/14 with Phil, Dan

Phil Mercer - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/14 with John Brayshaw

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Sep/14

Led p1. But p1 of what? Entertaining anyway.
net - AltLd - 07/Sep/14 with Hazel J

hazeysunshine - AltLd O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Annette

Phill_ Thompson - AltLd - 26/Aug/14 with Lucy Prins

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 24/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/14

helin - AltLd - 04/May/14 with lewis

55pete55 - 2nd - 30/Apr/14

Phil Blaylock - 2nd - 15/Apr/14 with KMC

annep11 - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Matt

petegunn - Lead - 22/Aug/13 with Sam

Agree start of Shepherds Chimney more logical and good - main grove interesting and wobbly block still there! Nice finish.
andy gittins - Lead - 08/Jul/13 with Annette

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/13

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/May/13

Started up Shepherd's Chimney but finished up this as it seemed more logical. Really nice top section.
maria85 - Lead O/S - 04/May/13 with Andy C, Ronnie

Hidden - 2nd - 04/May/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/May/13

Jacob Forshaw - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/13

Ken Taylor - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/13 with Harry Salisbury

Ray Sparks - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/13 with mark

dkd - Lead O/S - Apr/13 with Karl

Hidden - 2013

Em66 - 2013 with Mat

55pete55 - 2nd - 05/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd - Sep/12

Hidden - 2nd β - 12/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead - 31/Jul/12

DanC1985 - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/12 with Simon G

ClareM.123 - AltLd - 08/Jul/12 with Joe McCarty

joem - AltLd O/S - 08/Jul/12 with clure

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/12

Hidden - Lead rpt - 03/Jun/12

P1
John Brayshaw - AltLd rpt - 19/May/12 with Josh

Nothing like a wobbly block to spice things up!
mrplastique - AltLd - 22/Apr/12

HM Tricky finding the start and Helen belyaed part way up the second pitch
Marq - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/12 with Helen C (LMC)

Ellie79 - AltLd - 16/Apr/12 with Mike C

SPD224 - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/12 with John Hagart

Very pleased with this.
ian caton - AltLd β - 14/Apr/12 with Abi

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Apr/12

Charlie Zephyr Booth - Lead rpt - 01/Apr/12 with martin broadhurst

steve prior - Lead - Apr/12 with Andy C

Sam_Marsland - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Joe Mann

joermann - 2nd - 29/Mar/12

Donald Kelly - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12 with Jeremy Whitehead

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jan/12

Saintly - 2nd - 15/Jan/12 with Em, stimpey

gingermike1 - 2012

Narked4fun - 2012

Stone Idol - 2012

I really wouldn't pull on the bigger wobbly block if I were you! Go for the one in front of it and a slightly harder move.
Bulls Crack - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/11 with AM

Led 1st pitch
erica - AltLd O/S - 01/Oct/11 with John

P2
John Brayshaw - AltLd O/S - 30/Sep/11 with Erica

wheelo - AltLd - 27/Sep/11 with foggy

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Aug/11

Led nice first pitch marred only by shedding most of my medium nuts from their keeper crab. Much swearing and cursing ensued.
Ann S - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/11 with John Wheeler

wheelo - AltLd - 26/Aug/11 with ann

Hidden - Lead β - Aug/11

Peter P1
Andysomething - AltLd rpt - 27/Jul/11 with Peter McGarry

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/11

Lead as one long pitch. Jake tried first but found it hard and so did some sketchy down climbing, romoving the gear. Then I had a go and managed to get up after a bit of a battle in very hot conditions. Some of the holds are loose but a good route overall.
Sam Marks - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/11

jl - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/11 with Mark Ollis

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Jun/11

Simon led this as one pitch which seemed to work OK. Some wobbly blocks on second half.
Sue Underwood - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Simon

Simonfarfaraway - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/11 with loz

Sam Simpson - 2nd - 04/Jun/11 with Christian Turford, Adam Clark

A new area
ollismark - 2nd - Jun/11 with Jon Lynch

Chris led as one pitch. Worrying loose blocks.
stuaart - 2nd O/S - 01/May/11 with Chris Burn

chris_B - Lead - 01/May/11 with stuart reeves

Led as one pitch, nice top section easily a candidate for an extra star.
adamjc13 - May/11

Led P1
Fatclimber - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/11 with Phil West

I led the second (top) pitch. At least I think we were on the right route! We finished right at the top of Shepherd's Gully (shared final holds) which matches the guidebook description perfectly but not the topo on p335 (FRCC Select 2003).
Phil West - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/11 with Fatclimber

jon59 - AltLd - 24/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/11

Tightsgirl - Lead - 02/Apr/11 with Clare Francis

Mackinclimb - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11

jcooper8 - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/11

owain-1978 - 2nd - 10/Feb/11 with Pete

petegunn - Lead - 10/Feb/11 with Davina, Owain

Hidden - Solo O/S - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

olive - 2nd - 2011 with Jade Jauquet

Danny Bags - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Little B - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/10 with Anna M

Hidden - 13/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Aug/10

ccraigg22 - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/10 with Peter Hill

Hidden - 2nd - 31/May/10

Outdoorfun37 - 2nd - 28/May/10 with Henry Day

Hidden - Lead - 24/May/10

Celia Watson - 2nd O/S - 24/May/10 with stuart watson

AndyT1151 - 2nd - 12/May/10

bazpearson - 2nd O/S - 05/May/10 with pete stollery

bazpearson - 2nd O/S - 05/May/10 with pete stollery

Hidden - Lead - 28/Apr/10

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Lead - 11/Apr/10 with George reah

PeteH - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10 with Naomi Hart

NaomiHart - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10 with Peter Hart

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - 2010

ccorse - 2nd O/S - 2010

carlh - 2010

cosmicray - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Oct/09

joe king - Lead rpt - 12/Sep/09 with Rose

Rosey Posey - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Paul

Loose spike and rock on pitch 2 made it scary
Elsier - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Michael

Hidden - Lead - 16/Aug/09

Lead 2nd pitch, seconded first
ginja1980 - 11/Aug/09

Adam1973 - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Kath

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Aug/09

stimpey - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/09 with Pete

petegunn - 2nd - 16/Jul/09 with Steve

daveclarke5 - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Russell

petegunn - Lead - 12/Jun/09 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Jun/09

One Pitch
malc - Lead O/S - 23/May/09 with JT

wet !
martrin - AltLd - 10/May/09 with Colin Smith

simonp - Lead O/S - May/09

Hidden - Lead - 26/Mar/09

Olli-C - Lead - Mar/09 with dad

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/09

StevePr - AltLd O/S - 2009 with Alan

beaumap - Lead - 2009

MarkDavies36 - 2009

jonnie3430 - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/08 with Georgianna

Wobbly spike and other loose bits quite scary.
SianR - 2nd - 04/Aug/08 with Phil Knight

net - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08 with Conan & Claire S

Rock was quite solid all the way despite the huge missing roof that's fallen off.
Conan - 2nd rpt - 20/Jul/08 with net

djking1983 - Lead - 10/Jul/08 with Harold Edwards

Hammy - 2nd - 02/Jul/08 with Danny Towers

richw2k2 - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/08 with Chris Wood

Stuart Macfarlane - AltLd - 15/Jun/08 with Jeanie

Rather a lot of loose rock on pitch 2, both big and small, detracted from an otherwise goiod climb. Mrs Weasel led pitch 1.
JiveWeasel - AltLd - 15/Jun/08 with Mrs Weasel

Led pitch 1
Mrs Weasel - AltLd - 15/Jun/08 with JiveWeasel

andybeanland - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/08 with Dad

Hidden - Lead - 20/May/08

Celia Watson - 2nd - 20/May/08 with stuart watson

davis.pete - 2nd dog - 03/May/08 with Jon Hawes

red1200 - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - 2008

nickcj - Lead - 2008

I found this climb to be extremly loose on the 2nd pitch. Care is required.
Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Tanya Savage

IanJackson - Solo O/S - 14/Sep/07

Climbed after the rock fall so dubious line
TonyP - AltLd - 03/Sep/07 with Coolio

KevB - AltLd - 03/Sep/07 with Tony P

Lead first pitch and seconded the second pitch
cragmole - AltLd rpt - 26/Aug/07 with Nigel/Andrew

Cardi - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/07 with Pete D

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/07

Done as one pitch, but take care to protect 2nd.
JohnHutch - Lead - 09/Jun/07 with SC

Si Croft - 2nd - 09/Jun/07 with JH

Joe Miller - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/07 with Dave Armstrong

joe king - Lead - 19/May/07 with John Hodgson

In one pitch. MVS in the guidebook, but felt more like Severe. Nice route, shame about the wobbly block, which while presumably not going anywhere soon, distracts attention from the climbing!
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Carmen

Hidden - Lead - 2007

Wobbling spike still there! Thought provoking..
Andysomething - AltLd - 25/Oct/06 with Colin Binks

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Oct/06

PenJD - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/06 with Lianna Scholes

NickST - AltLd - Jun/06 with Phil Tucker

Guidebook has down as MVS - don't know where this grade came from?
Sam Judson - Lead O/S - 14/May/06 with Caroline Judson

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Apr/06

malc - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/06 with CH

Hidden - Lead - 17/Mar/06

stewart murray - 2006

Hidden - AltLd - 2006

Hidden - Lead - 23/Aug/05

Celia Watson - 2nd - 23/Aug/05 with stuart watson

Hidden - Lead - 14/May/05

Celia Watson - 2nd - 14/May/05 with stuart watson

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/05

Celia Watson - 2nd - 30/Apr/05 with stuart watson

rob k - Lead O/S - 19/Dec/04 with J Domenesh

BlueJohn - Lead - 07/Sep/04 with Claire Owen

Lawrie Brand - Lead O/S - 16/May/04 with Sophie

djking1983 - Lead - 09/Apr/04

steveP - Lead O/S - 2004 with Paul Rowlands

biggianthead - 04/Aug/03 with T

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Apr/03

joe king - 2nd - Jul/02 with steve pettit

Hidden - AltLd - Apr/02

Hidden - 2002

biggianthead - 19/Jun/01 with T

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 23/May/01 with cliff brown

Hidden - AltLd - 13/May/01

Led P2, but in hindsight followed non guidebook variant by avoiding the slab with the overlaps by traversing to the left and rejoining just below the belvedere
Andysomething - AltLd - 01/May/01 with Jo Woodward

Hidden - 2001

biggianthead - 16/Mar/00 with HT

gypsy3006 - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 2000

SimonN - AltLd - 13/Jun/99

clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/99 with Alistair

Trobbo - Lead - 15/May/99 with reg

Hidden - AltLd - 1999

Paul Clarke - AltLd - 1999 with FMC

Hammy - Lead - 09/Mar/98 with Penny Excel

Dave Westby - Lead - 1998

Tarquin - 1998

rurp - 1998

Howard J - 2nd - 13/Oct/96 with Dave Brinkman

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 31/May/95

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 1995 with Karen Ghiselli

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 24/Sep/94 with Liz Nicholson

Fine route, much better than it appears from below.
Rog Wilko - Lead - Jun/93 with Debbie Wilkinson

stokienomad - Lead - 21/Jun/92

JonG - 1990

babymoac - Lead - 04/Mar/88 with Pete D

Simon2005 - AltLd O/S - 20/Oct/85 with KevinL

Tim Bateman - Lead - 04/Aug/85

biggianthead - 16/May/85 with G

Tim Bateman - 2nd - 20/Jan/85

Richard Weller - 2nd - 20/Apr/84 with Richard White

Hammy - AltLd - 24/Feb/84

Hidden - Lead - 12/Jun/83

Hammy - Lead - 03/Oct/82 with Kate Knight

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1982

tapley - Lead - 01/Jun/80 with Alison Tapley

Hidden - 1980

MikeDowsett - AltLd - 1980 with Andy Lynch

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/78

Lord of Starkness - 2nd - 1978 with J Eyles

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1978

Ken Taylor - AltLd - 20/Apr/77 with Gerry Dunford

Hidden - Solo - Apr/75

chris heald - AltLd - 1974 with peter latimer

greenbuoy - Lead - 16/Mar/73 with A N Other

David Smith - Lead - 05/Jul/70

RichardMc - AltLd - 11/May/69 with Ian Broome

Dave Musgrove - Lead - Sep/68

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 07/Jul/67 with Jim Worthington

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