215m, 7 pitches. P1-There are 2 spike belays, one @ 40m and one @ 50m
The Off-width description on p2 is mis-leading. A better description is- "P2 Continue up the groove for 20m to reach a huge flake on the RHS. Traverse up and right across the face of the flake (bold) to reach blocks in the crevasse above. Easily traverse 10m right to a grassy ledge.
P4- After the crux traverse it saves a lot of contortions to continue above the ledge up the steep wall mentioned as the start of P5. A good alloy peg (in situ) is well placed to allow belaying back in view of the crux.
Followed completely the route ends on the Cioch by Cioch Nose rte. Those wanting to climb Arrow Route should traverse left (30m) after the long easy section of scrambling described as a variation to p7

Dorothy Pilley, Carr & Holland 1919

Ticklists: Connoisseur's Classic Rock, Ultimate Scottish Rock, Heather's Multipitch Climbs, Skye Rock, Best Multi-pitch Severe and Hard Severe.

Hidden 30/Sep Solo
Hidden 09/Sep 2nd O/S
Matt Smith 09/Sep Lead O/S

Fantastic route. Went slightly off route after crux of p3 (went up instead of walking right) and ended up doing some hard, unprotected moves. Got a bit lost in the top 2 easy pitches as well. Finished on Arrow Route and the Cioch.

Liam Watson ?/Sep AltLd

Fantastic route though we got a bit lost after the third pitch. Still an awesome route though

Julesthe1st 13/Aug AltLd O/S
with Richard Sullivan
Hidden 15/Jul -
bigbobbyking 13/Jun AltLd
Hidden 11/Jun AltLd
Hidden 10/Jun AltLd O/S
alexmcmillan 03/Jun Lead O/S

Long, but great, day out. Descended the slopes to an unusually calm break in the bad weather and moonrise.

with Miriam Norris
Hidden ?/Jun AltLd
Hidden 25/May AltLd O/S
Jim Slater 24/May AltLd O/S
Hidden 24/May AltLd O/S
keithlambley 14/May AltLd
with Kate R
Hidden 01/May 2nd O/S
Hidden 20/Sep/14 Lead
marsden.d.paul 18/Sep/14 AltLd
with Andrew Marsden
adamarchie 16/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

I led pitches 1, 3, 5&6 (combined). Reasonably early start as wanted to do something on the upper terrace too. Found ourselves behind a couple, one of whom was doing her first multipitch. They slowed us down a little but not too much. My first climb on gabbro. Took a while to get used to and to start trusting the friction! My best bit was a lead over the bulge at the start of P5, shortly after a perfectly executed Bonnington flop to gain the belay at the end of the hand traverse.

Chris Sansum 15/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

A great day out on perfect rock! Chris P1-3, 7. Colin P4-6

with Colin Gunning
jamesgr87 15/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
Rob84 14/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Mel
birthers 25/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

Our first, and as it turned out, only climb on Skye. Very hot and sunny, only to be replaced by rain for the rest of the trip. Caroline led odd pitches, I led even.

caroline256 25/Jul/14 AltLd
with Tom B
Nemo9 23/Jul/14 AltLd

Went slightly off route towards end of first pitch in search of "off width variant" . Climbed to rusty peg then traversed right to a belay on Crembo Cracks possibly ?

with Jim
quickdrawmcraw 11/Jul/14 Lead dnf
Hidden 11/Jul/14 2nd
Avinash Aujayeb 08/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
HP9 ?/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 29/Jun/14 2nd
SarahA 18/Jun/14 2nd
lcullum7 18/Jun/14 Lead O/S
CallumSmith 13/Jun/14 AltLd
Tasmin 08/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Lead pitches 1,3,5 and second half of 6 (ended up doing it in 8 pitches). Missed the blindingly obvious grassy ledges on pitch 3 and had to downclimb the slabs! Traverse on pitch 5 definitely the highlight.

Craig Holden 08/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Great climb...though route length description in Scottish rock is rather off.

Dougie Harvey 03/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
with Finlay Wild
mistymarsh ?/Jun/14 2nd
fjg123 ?/Jun/14 -
Hidden 31/May/14 AltLd O/S
planetmarshall 31/May/14 AltLd

Deviated somewhat onto crux pitch of Crembo Cracks, seems to be easily done.

BnB 30/May/14 -
auld al 30/May/14 AltLd O/S
Adamski1986 24/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Mark Anstiss, Stuart Bennett
stub1990 24/May/14 AltLd
HaddRoots 24/May/14 AltLd O/S

first multipitch route, great day out with perfect weather and brilliant climbing

Theeni 19/May/14 Lead O/S
with Shakti
Shakti 19/May/14 2nd O/S

Some bits were moist and wet but weather was in our side today.

Hidden 14/May/14 AltLd
Hidden 13/May/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 13/May/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 01/May/14 Lead O/S
Allanfairfechan ??/2014 -
James Thacker ??/2014 -
Hidden 26/Jun/13 AltLd
Hidden 17/Jun/13 Lead
Jamiet297 17/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Following Steve and Zack. Led 1,3,5+6

with John Sheehan
John Sheehan 17/Jun/13 AltLd
with Jamie
Andy Moles 16/Jun/13 Lead rpt
holly138 10/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Tom B
Hidden 09/Jun/13 Lead O/S
JamieSparkes 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

an excellent route, got on a little late and were slowed slightly by parties ahead but not too badly.

ill_bill 09/Jun/13 AltLd

Brilliant weather. Perfect conditions.

Lawrie Brand 08/Jun/13 Lead O/S
with Sarah Laing
Hidden 08/Jun/13 AltLd dnf
Hidden 08/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Quallim 08/Jun/13 2nd dnf

Got raped by the midges.

with Ryan Gill, Appleby
jjax 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Chris S
mot1 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
maryleese 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Bobby Greig
Hidden 08/Jun/13 AltLd
CathS 05/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led P2, P4 (crux) and P6. Went straight up the steep wall onto the right hand end of the ledge at the top of P4, which felt harder than 4a with tiny holds and a mantelshelf top out - possibly should have taken more of a rising hand traverse which apparently has a big jug at the end of it. Very exciting though! Start of P7 felt tough for the grade and the route-finding throughout is quite adventurous. Climbed with big rucksacks and finished in baking hot evening sun. One of the best routes I've climbed, as much for the setting as anything else.

with Dave Clark
scottyskier82 05/Jun/13 Lead O/S

Hard route finding in places but excellent climb

with Laura Goble
ferdia 04/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Lyndsey
roberto18 04/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Dad (Mike Bridges)
Zoe Cockburn ?/Jun/13 AltLd
Hidden ?/Jun/13 AltLd
Hidden 29/May/13 AltLd
tallpaulselfridge 28/May/13 2nd O/S
Dougbart 28/May/13 Lead O/S
with paul selfrige
JuneBob 25/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Alastair
Kasia Lasota 19/May/13 2nd dnf

Did 1st pitch then abbed off.

with Ross Young, James Priestley
Hidden 19/May/13 2nd
Ross Young 19/May/13 AltLd dnf
mhamiltonj 19/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Anders, Johanna
MarcusP 18/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Conor
Andy Moles 07/May/13 AltLd O/S

Evening hit, brilliant.

with Lou
cpforbes ?/May/13 AltLd O/S
SarahA 22/Sep/12 AltLd
Little AndyH 22/Sep/12 AltLd O/S
fall-line 31/Jul/12 AltLd O/S

Led 1,2,3

with Laurence, Job
Hidden 31/Jul/12 AltLd
Laurence Cowton 31/Jul/12 AltLd

Ran into 5 pitches. A lot easier than the first time!

with Job, Donald
tompilgrem 02/Jul/12 AltLd O/S

In 6 pitches, ran p1,2,3 as 2. Led odd pitches. Great route.

with Dad
bobpilgrem 02/Jul/12 AltLd O/S

Great route-easy long mountain multipitch with easy decsent back down the Terrace.

with Tom
catblack 20/Jun/12 AltLd O/S
Andrew Barker 20/Jun/12 AltLd O/S
GermanAlex 12/Jun/12 Lead O/S

puts us route finding aces to the test

with Ellen
Hidden 06/Jun/12 Lead
Hidden 04/Jun/12 Solo
Louis Hume 04/Jun/12 Lead
with Jenny
Jenny Hall 04/Jun/12 2nd O/S
with Louis
Morgan P 04/Jun/12 AltLd O/S

GREAT ROUTE. Beautiful views, nice easy but interesting climbing with lots of gear - definitely worth doing if you fancy a relaxing picturesque day out. 215/240m route (depending on guide) of 8 pitches. I did the first, Adam did 2nd and alternated from there. Mostly easy with some interesting and optional hand jams. Nothing scary and some pitches are just scrambling. Best bit was where I lead up onto the ledge by accident instead of the hand traverse, very interesting corner crack with a mantle onto a sloping foot deep ledge (same ledge as hand traverse puts you onto)

malteserEd 02/Jun/12 AltLd
ian caton ?/Jun/12 AltLd
with Abi
Abi Chard 31/May/12 AltLd O/S
with Ian
Hidden 28/May/12 Lead
Hidden 28/May/12 2nd O/S
Chris Manasseh 27/May/12 AltLd

Led pp 1,3,5,7

Private Flounder 27/May/12 AltLd
with chris manasseh
Michael Ryan 24/May/12 AltLd
Hidden 23/May/12 AltLd
DavidR 21/May/12 AltLd O/S
Carol Goodall 20/May/12 AltLd O/S

Great climbing on a clear but cool day. Last pitch was a bit wondering. Led P1,5,7. Followed this with Cioch Nose.

with Martin Arnar Grothe Lien
jackse 19/May/12 AltLd

Great climb - crux airy

with kenny
crookachili 19/May/12 AltLd
with Rob Chase
James90 19/May/12 2nd
Ross Young 18/May/12 AltLd RP

Lead all but first 2 pitches.

with James P, Anders HWUMC
Hidden 28/Apr/12 2nd O/S
Steve Perry 23/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Kate14 23/Apr/12 AltLd
peter.herd 13/Apr/12 AltLd

Rory lead crux during blizzard. Fun!

with Romain Gallerini, Rory Brown
Hidden 13/Apr/12 AltLd
morsy 25/Mar/12 AltLd
with peter berwick
Pete23 25/Mar/12 AltLd
with Stephen Mors
adie84 ??/2012 -
simonty ??/2012 2nd
Hidden ??/2012 -
freyja 02/Oct/11 Lead dnf

clean os 3 pitches. had to back down as it was getting late. did not have enough rope to abb off, so had to lea downclimb

Hidden 19/Aug/11 AltLd
errrrm? 09/Aug/11 AltLd O/S

Superb climb, exposed crux. Hard for VDiff.

with gaz h
Hidden 06/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
bnewman 06/Aug/11 AltLd

Some good climbing. Amelia finished p.2 on upper section of Crack of Double Doom.

with Amelia
Hidden 24/Jun/11 2nd
geoff.comley 21/Jun/11 Lead O/S

Led all Pictches, last in the rain which stopped the link up attempt. Booooo! Nice climbing with easy route finding, bomber belays and magnificent situations!

cookacat 19/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

got a little lost but found route in time for the crux section.

with Ben, sam
Hidden 19/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
CragDog 19/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
with Alex Minshall, Ben
simondunf 11/Jun/11 Solo
Sean Kelly 03/Jun/11 AltLd

Climbed with Bob Dawson after an initial attempt was curtailed because of a serious accident on Cioch Direct 3 days previously. Very average weather, windy, cold and damp!

with Bob Dawson
JonmapDL ?/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

severe for the length and adventurousness of the route.

with Tabea
martinuk1001 ?/May/11 -
si_green99 29/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Great route, i lead the traverse pitch but then accidentally carried on up the slab of the next pitch which created loads of rope drag!

with Owen Raybould, mike morgan
Hidden 29/Apr/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 29/Apr/11 AltLd O/S
Conan 21/Apr/11 AltLd
with Clare A, Philippa Reader
ceaddiso 21/Apr/11 2nd
with Philippa Reader, Conan
nowler 15/Apr/11 AltLd

I led pitches 1, 4, 6 & 7. JR led 2, 3 & 5.

with JR, forbes
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ?/Oct/10 Lead O/S
frecro ?/Oct/10 AltLd
with olly gourd
Hidden 26/Sep/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Sep/10 -
Hidden 22/Jul/10 2nd
Hidden ?/Jul/10 AltLd
Woodiee 19/Jun/10 Lead O/S

would say severe as per smc guidebook - lead all pitches on perfect sunny day, amazing route, lovley climbing on good rock - massive crux pitch exposure on jugs, purely brilliant!

with sam webb
Dafydd Llywelyn 07/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
with Mathew Ringrose
Liam Ingram 05/Jun/10 Lead O/S
with Lizzie Wastnedge
Hidden 05/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
Lumbering Oaf 03/Jun/10 AltLd O/S

A good route but found route finding difficult. Ended up doing the crux move of Crembo Cracks past the rusty Peg Runner up to the slabs above which is listed as HVS 5a (although a bit low in the grade).

Hidden 03/Jun/10 2nd
Hidden 03/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Pete Scott 03/Jun/10 AltLd

First MultiPitch! Climbed up to the 6th Pitch then decended when Jimbo kicked his shoe off the cliff.

with Jimbo
spragglerocks 03/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
with Verity Payne, Matt Box
Hidden 03/Jun/10 2nd dog
Fergus Cuthill ?/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
with Fiona M
cas smerdon 31/May/10 AltLd

In walking boots, left rock shoes behind!

with Mark S
Hidden 31/May/10 AltLd
Hidden 31/May/10 AltLd
Hidden 31/May/10 Lead O/S
thomasaneurinsmith 31/May/10 AltLd
with Hannah Gibbs
martinh13 31/May/10 2nd
with Chris
Philippa Arding 29/May/10 AltLd
Hidden 28/May/10 AltLd
andyfeds 24/May/10 AltLd O/S
with Neil T, Alaric
Alaric 24/May/10 Lead O/S

Led pitches 1-3,7,8. Andy led 4-6

with andyfeds, Neil
Ross Young 23/May/10 AltLd dnf
Thoms6974 22/May/10 AltLd O/S

The clouds kindly receeded at the crux for an excellent exposed mantle onto our lunchspot

with Matt
radioshed 22/May/10 AltLd O/S
with andy t
srwarrender 15/May/10 2nd
Bex_M 09/May/10 AltLd O/S
with Ian, Claire Ellwood
Hidden 08/May/10 AltLd
ZA 08/May/10 AltLd
with kenny
Hidden ?/Apr/10 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
nickwhimster 30/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Matt Barnet
monsteratt 30/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
with Matt, Nic and Andy
AlexD 11/Sep/09 AltLd
joeurwin 11/Sep/09 AltLd O/S

dislodged a big rock on pitch 6. Mashed one of our ropes through to the core, bad times. A fairly convincing argument for climbing with twin ropes though!

with alex
Chris Sansum 07/Sep/09 Lead dnf

Climbed 1 pitch which was streaming with water, in big boots. Decided that due to the amount of time taken for that pitch it would be a bit ambitious to do 11 pitches in the same conditions, and called it a day! Gutting as the weather was dry, but there was a lot of runoff from previous days/weeks.

with Colin Gunning
jonka ?/Sep/09 -
with mark
mark sadler ?/Sep/09 AltLd
with john
cliffy 10/Aug/09 AltLd O/S
with Andrew Combes
steveadkinson 02/Jul/09 AltLd O/S
with Si
Stuart Macfarlane 27/Jun/09 AltLd rpt

Jeanie led the odd numbered pitches.

with Jeanie
vvanhinsbergh 26/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 16/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Steven Andrews 09/Jun/09 AltLd O/S

I led the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th pitches. The crux on pitch 5 is wonderfully exposed. Finnished on to Cioch Nose (D) to reach the Cioch.

schultz 06/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
with Ash
ashvin 06/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
with donald
Will Hunt 06/Jun/09 AltLd O/S

Led 1st, 3rd (to just before traverse pitch) etc

with David Smith
Hidden 06/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 31/May/09 2nd O/S
Bradb86 10/May/09 2nd O/S
jess ??/2009 AltLd O/S
with martin
oliverk 07/Sep/08 AltLd

Pitches 1, 3, 5 and 7

with Michael
stimpey 08/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
with Pete, Davina
petegunn 08/Aug/08 AltLd
with Davina & Steve
Hidden 08/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Aug/08 Lead
mikelaing ?/Aug/08 Lead
with Carolyn
cas54321 ?/Aug/08 2nd
with Mike
Peter Reynolds ?/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
joeydurkin 13/Jul/08 2nd
with Ben C
SimonBrown 06/Jul/08 AltLd
with Val Young
morbh 05/Jul/08 AltLd
with Murdoch
Hidden 21/Jun/08 AltLd
dave o 21/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with Bru
HamishD 13/Jun/08 AltLd O/S

Moved Together

with chris burn
Hertha 31/May/08 AltLd
with Lyndsey Mackay
lyndseymackay 31/May/08 AltLd O/S
with Hertha
Hidden 27/May/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 26/May/08 Lead
Hidden 25/May/08 2nd O/S
Hidden 25/May/08 AltLd O/S
david0811 19/May/08 AltLd O/S
with Mark Reid
Hidden 14/May/08 Lead
Howard J 02/May/08 Lead O/S

Joined it at the grassy ledges after backing off Cioch West.

Goody 02/May/08 2nd O/S

Initially started Cioch Direct, did 1.5 pitches then moved onto West.

pimpy ?/May/08 Lead

all except 2 of the pitches

with ali clarke, anna hogg
abbeywall ?/May/08 AltLd
with K
niallk ?/May/08 AltLd O/S

Quite possibly went off route at some point.

with Alan
Hidden ?/May/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2008 -
Sandy Simpson ??/2008 AltLd
TrollJester ??/2008 AltLd O/S
with VARIOUS Throughout 80's+90's
innesmac ??/2008 -
jonnie3430 ?/Sep/07 Lead O/S
bigbobbyking 29/Jul/07 AltLd O/S
with Peter King
Captain Solo 17/Jun/07 Lead
with Karen
vvanhinsbergh ?/Jun/07 Lead O/S


with Doug & Steve
Ben1983 27/May/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 27/May/07 Solo O/S
catt 27/May/07 AltLd O/S

About right at Severe as in the new guide. Led P2,3,6. Accidentally ran 2&3 together by climbing the corner above what should have been the 2nd belay. But this is part of the HVS.

with Blane
Hidden 05/May/07 AltLd
timmy-ts ??/2007 -
mulletcocktail2000 15/Jul/06 AltLd O/S

nice climbing, great crux, loads of exposure.

with joe and john
Steve Perry ?/Jul/06 2nd

Got lost, ended up on Crembo Cracks

Stuart Macfarlane 10/Jun/06 AltLd
with Dave S
mattdown ?/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
with Lester DUMC
jonnybull ?/Jun/06 AltLd O/S

Confused. My SMC guide says 215m severe. Not sure what we did but it was good.

with Dan
victim of mathematics 08/May/06 Lead O/S
Cornish Merlin 08/May/06 2nd
Hidden 07/May/06 Solo O/S
K Wall 30/Apr/06 AltLd

Upgraded to S 4-stars in guide book

with Martin
Neil Anderson from Hilton 30/Apr/06 2nd O/S

My first multipitch route

with Len Trim
DavPk 07/Aug/05 Lead

The traverse about half way up was very exciting! Much relief when reaching belay ledge. This route deserves more than one star and I think is hard vd if not s.

with Rita McElwain
Hidden 01/Aug/04 2nd
Hidden 07/Jul/04 AltLd
IanMcC 06/Jul/04 AltLd
with Jimbo
Hidden ?/Jun/04 AltLd
DundeeDave 23/Aug/03 AltLd
with Eva Ticke
Ken Applegate ?/Aug/03 AltLd
with Andy Barker
GPN ?/Apr/03 AltLd
Hidden 10/Jul/02 AltLd
Julie Carroll 07/Jun/02 2nd
with Tim Bird
seanyt ?/May/02 Lead
rlrs ??/2002 AltLd
brianrunner ??/2001 -
Paul-Michael 16/Jun/00 AltLd O/S
with Paul Nurse
BRUCESTRAC ??/2000 Lead
with various
innesmac ??/2000 -
alan moore ??/2000 -

Heavy rain and thunder booming round the Corries.

Raggar ?/May/99 AltLd
with Ian M, Andy J
andrewbooth1000 ?/Apr/99 AltLd O/S
with Geoff Brocklehurst
Hidden ??/1999 -
Jamie B 14/Aug/98 Lead
with Alastair Hendry
el diablo 02/Jul/98 AltLd
Hidden ?/May/98 -
TobyA 07/Aug/97 Lead O/S
with Olly
Hidden ??/1997 2nd
Hidden ?/May/95 Lead
konacol ?/Jul/94 AltLd
with Dave Bryson
Neil Henderson ?/May/93 AltLd
with Iain Henderson
Rog Wilko ?/Jun/91 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
mr_drains 19/Jun/90 2nd O/S
with Charlie
johnkeith ??/1990 -
colinthrelfall ??/1990 -
Hidden 06/Jul/89 Lead
Raggar 27/May/89 AltLd
with Chris B
Jamie Simpson ?/Apr/89 2nd

First multi pitch route, with daisy boots and bowline round the waist. climbed with Tim Winters

with Tim Winters
Hidden ??/1989 -
Iain Thow 19/Jun/88 AltLd


with Alan Beard
John Brayshaw 23/May/88 AltLd O/S
with Chris
Derek Ryden ??/1988 AltLd O/S
with Paul Bingham, John Taylor
pingora 02/Sep/87 Lead O/S
with J rea
Hidden ??/1987 2nd
Hidden 01/Jul/86 -
Tony Buckley ?/May/86 Lead

We got one pitch up and the heavens opened! I believe the cioch was up there somewhere, but we couldn't see it, even at the top of the climb. And we couldn't find the descent path, so abbed off...through a waterfall. And then the rope got stuck. That was the best weather we had that week. The following night the tent got blown down!

biggianthead 09/Apr/85 -
with G
scree ?/Aug/83 AltLd dnf

Our first attempt at multi pitch climb came unstuck amidst the mysteries of how are you supposed to do this. Retreated after much faffing.

with Tim
Hidden ?/Jun/83 AltLd
Hidden ??/1983 -
Hidden ??/1983 Lead
Ken McCulloch ?/May/82 -
Hidden ??/1980 -
Hidden ?/Aug/79 Lead
Hidden 01/Jun/79 AltLd O/S
Mike C 08/Aug/78 AltLd
with Richard Oxlade
Hidden ?/Jun/78 -
Hidden ?/Aug/77 2nd
tapley 04/Aug/75 Lead
with Alison Tapley
Sean Kelly ?/May/74 -

Blitzed the Cioch on a day of excellent weather!

with Graham Thompson & Steve Berisford
Derek Ryden ?/Jul/72 AltLd O/S
with Tim O'Flaherty, Chris Myerscough, Nick Bradley
Hidden ??/1969 -
uphillnow 11/Aug/61 Lead
with Tony Smith
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