Rockfax Description
A much-talked-about first pitch is followed by easier but still worthwhile climbing. E1 if you don't fall off! Start just to the left of the right edge of the wall.
1) 5b, 23m. Climb to below a small overhang and make a couple of committing moves up to, and then past it on the right (small wires). Continue directly up the lovely wall to a belay on a good ledge next to a huge flake.
2) 5a, 35m. Move up big ledges to where the rock steepens. Climb steep cracks heading for a black stain in an overlap above. Pull over the overlap, peg, and then step left. Move leftwards once again up a slab to the base of a chimney. Climb the chimney exiting onto easy ground, the top is not far above. © Rockfax

Ticklists: West Country Climbs.

Hidden 04/Oct AltLd O/S
Lewis Stewart 04/Oct AltLd O/S
manbat 02/Oct AltLd O/S

Matt did a good lead on P1. I still think I would have struggled. I led P2. Was tempted, like many, to finish up LBJ, as the traverse of the slab isn't that inviting. It's actually fine, though the pile of gravel where you want there to be a big jug after pulling up through the v-groove, is a bit unwelcome. Overall, a great route!

Lumbering Oaf 02/Oct Lead O/S

Led P1. Matt P2. There is solid pro on this route - just gotta look for it! fun route with good climbing.

Hidden 26/Sep AltLd
manbat 24/Sep Lead dnf

Could not commit. Was not happy with the gear, nor could I see how to do the moves. Disgusted with myself. Still feels leading this kind of thing is miles away.

Brian H 20/Sep Lead rpt

P1 only - finished up Little Brown Jug

with Martin Dunning
Hidden 29/Aug 2nd
Ed Babs 01/Aug AltLd O/S


with AlexD
AlexD 01/Aug AltLd O/S
with Ed
elliptic 18/Jul AltLd

Finished up the LBJ flakes instead of the chimney/slot.

with Pete M.
JulesV 08/Jul Lead O/S
with Shauna
JoeCoxson 27/Jun Lead O/S

Looks a lot blanker from the bottom, and I'd been told it was a gearless nightmare- surprisingly nice climbing with well spaced gear in fact.

with Stuart Cossey
Stu.Cossey 27/Jun 2nd
Hidden 21/Jun Lead O/S
partz 18/Jun AltLd O/S

Lead P2. Ballsy first pitch by jonny with an awesome set of moves towards the start. Top pitch was good too, nice balancy rock over!

JonnyW 18/Jun AltLd O/S

Led pitch 1 - really cool balancy and committing moves. Work up the nerve and go for it!

omaskrey 08/Jun 2nd O/S
with Ed Walker
Hidden ?/Jun AltLd
clairejane ?/Jun 2nd

Will lead first pitch, then I lead through on Little Brown Jug

with will
Sally Lisle ?/Jun AltLd
Hidden 26/May AltLd
bullwinkle 25/May 2nd O/S
with Amanda, Alan
Billg 23/May Lead O/S
with Megan Beaumont
Hidden 23/May AltLd rpt
richardashe 22/May AltLd O/S

Lead the first pitch. Thankful I took loads of micro nuts and cams. Second pitch was so different to the first. Large holds but nice and exposed.

cheeky 22/May -

Richard led the 5b pitch one. I got confused at belay and we finished on little brown jug.

chris687 22/May AltLd O/S

Sam did the first, scary looking pitch, I did the top one.

Sam Simpson 22/May AltLd O/S
lost.arrow 03/May AltLd

Stu got the first I got the last.

with Stu Sherwood
Hidden 18/Apr AltLd O/S
Dunx 09/Apr AltLd O/S
with Jake Thompsett, Adam
Katsmiff 05/Apr AltLd O/S

Martin started leading. I lead the 2nd pitch.

Martin Bagshaw 05/Apr AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2015 -
Bob Peters ??/2015 2nd
Misha 06/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Eszter
joedoherty 23/Aug/14 AltLd O/S
dobby 200 23/Aug/14 Lead O/S

I led both pitches, awesome moves up the start of the route

Hidden 05/Aug/14 Lead rpt
gg4419 06/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
nickstephens 06/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
kyaizawa 21/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Hmmm seems like I disagree with the majority... Thought it was hard at E1 more like E2 (surely "E1 if you don't fall off" just means it's harder/more serious than E1...) Got quite tired hanging around trying to fiddle in half a dozen IMPs for the start - both calves and arms were feeling it by the end, and the whole route felt a lot harder than the neighbouring Thin Wall Special.

JRJones 21/Jun/14 2nd

Ky Leads all pitches.

BigTone 02/Jun/14 Lead dnf

Fell off low down. Gear seems shit, maybe there's better placements above.

mike lawrence? 28/May/14 AltLd

led first pitch which seemed quite hard to me, fab top pitch as well which is much better than it looks

with FatRob
Hinchrn 03/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Johny Logan
Hidden 24/Apr/14 2nd
jakenichol 19/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Matt Bennett 12/Apr/14 Lead O/S

1st pitch only

with Stu Mackenzie, Martin Fowler
Hidden 18/Mar/14 2nd
jcw ??/2014 -
Tubs 31/Oct/13 Lead O/S

Reasonably well protected by RPs. Soft but not a good first E1.

with Dave M
Justin T 31/Aug/13 Lead
with Nancy
dready 19/Aug/13 AltLd O/S

nice bold moves at the bottom but the holds are there

Trobbo 12/Aug/13 2nd
with Stu Bradbury
Hidden 04/Jul/13 2nd
ian d f 04/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with Bob, Norman
leon 27/Jun/13 Lead O/S

Really tired after a week being harassed by the kids. Didn't trust any of the gear below the overhang, good job the climbing felt easy.

Tim M 24/May/13 Lead O/S

In a memorably gusty force 5...

with Emma
climbergg 24/May/13 AltLd
oakapple 18/May/13 Lead O/S
Simon Alden 16/May/13 Lead O/S
with Craig Harwood
cem 30/Mar/13 AltLd rpt

Led p1. Cold fingers

Kirill 30/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
Davebryant 19/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
sam.hann 19/Feb/13 AltLd
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
Ed morris 01/Dec/12 Lead O/S
with matt jackson
jacksonm1 23/Nov/12 2nd
jacobjlloyd 27/Oct/12 Lead O/S

First pitch only, as it started to rain and was getting dark. Felt necky at the grade until you got to the moves - hard to read from below but alright in the end. Gear and holds are all there if you look well. Really enjoyable!

with Ben Corbey
El3ctroFuzz 29/Sep/12 AltLd O/S

Cool steady climb. Benchmark.

with Paul Roberts
Spearos 12/Aug/12 AltLd O/S

lead P1 finished up Little Brown Jug

with Riggo
Hidden 05/Aug/12 Lead O/S
Robin Woodward ?/Aug/12 Lead
Hidden 15/Jul/12 AltLd
mjeffery 04/Jul/12 AltLd O/S
with Rob
MD 27/Jun/12 AltLd O/S

Led p1

with Jo
Happy Wanderer 26/Jun/12 AltLd O/S

Mike led first pitch with scary early moves.

with Mike D
tgeh 22/Jun/12 AltLd O/S
with Howie
Hidden 22/Jun/12 Lead
Curly Rich 03/Jun/12 2nd O/S
with GMC JohnP
Hidden 03/Jun/12 Lead O/S
burto 08/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
with malc
givemetea 07/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

led P1

dprctr 07/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

Ros lead pitch 1, myself pitch 2. Felt committing on the slabby traverse and the chimney offered good well protected exposure.

3 Names 06/Apr/12 2nd

sumee lead pitch 1, me pitch 2

RichardN 06/Apr/12 2nd dog
Alan100 06/Apr/12 AltLd

Top moves are a lot friendlier than they looked from below :D reckon it'd make a nice alternative finish to Little brown jug...

Dave89 06/Apr/12 Lead O/S
with RichardN, Fat Al
Hidden 06/Apr/12 Lead O/S
greenclimb 01/Apr/12 Lead O/S
with Sarah
Pete Graham ?/Apr/12 AltLd
with Rick Graham
arandall 12/Mar/12 Lead O/S

First pitch was fairly sustained through the crux section, brilliant climbing. Made a mess of the chimney at the end of the second pitch.

Wendy Watthews 12/Mar/12 2nd O/S
Tophe 04/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Feb/12 -
Hidden ??/2012 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2012 AltLd
Hidden 28/Aug/11 AltLd
jelaby 28/Aug/11 AltLd O/S

Notgnarly led P1, I led P2, which seems slightly contrived. It's all about P1 though, isn't it.

Matthew Robinson 20/Aug/11 AltLd
with Jon
Hidden 18/Aug/11 Lead O/S
benkelsey 14/Jul/11 Lead O/S

fantastic first pitch although I climbed it terribly. (hot conditions - you know!) finished up the last pitch of Little brown jug.. Visionary jugs perhaps?

with Phill Butler
Hidden 18/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
a13x 09/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
pudding 09/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
gowla 31/May/11 AltLd O/S
with will kumar
royal 31/May/11 2nd

Johnny led, did it in one pitch (!) I pulled on a piece of gear on one of the crux moves near the bottom.

misterb 21/Mar/11 Lead O/S

p1 only,nice route,easy compared to thin wall special

with wain
Justin T 19/Mar/11 2nd
nickstephens 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S

Interesting start which was made a little less scary with Grahams RP's.

with Graham Hadaway
redshapedfriday 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S

I did the easier last pitch.

with nick stevens
Hidden 09/Sep/10 2nd
Rob Pitt 03/Sep/10 AltLd O/S

Led p1

with Helen Pitt
metal arms 17/Jul/10 AltLd O/S

Pitch 1

adamscottthomas 27/Jun/10 Lead β
Little AndyH 17/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 17/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 15/Apr/10 -
JerryD ??/2010 Lead
Hidden ??/2010 -
williamsd79 ??/2010 -
katherinesydney 20/Dec/09 2nd dog

Did first pitch (sat down alot!), then finished with last two pitches of little brown jug

Bobby Gilbert 20/Dec/09 Lead O/S

first (crux) pitch only

joese7en 17/Oct/09 Lead O/S

low in the grade protection is adequate, good route

Hidden 17/Oct/09 2nd
Don Jebus 17/Oct/09 AltLd O/S

Finished up little brown jug P2, made a better line i thought

nickdonohue ?/Oct/09 Lead

I did 1st pitch

with Andy March
Hidden 12/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
rockferret 12/Sep/09 AltLd O/S

Excellent route. Pete did the harder first pitch.

with Pete
Dan_Carroll 31/Aug/09 Lead rpt

P1, combined with top pitch of Thin Wall Special.

Oli 30/Jun/09 2nd O/S

First pitch. Mark led.

Hidden 30/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
masa-alpin 23/May/09 AltLd O/S

I lead P1, Doug, P2 (he has climbed it before).

with Doug S
dannyboy83 03/May/09 Lead O/S
with Alice
brian watson 03/May/09 AltLd O/S
with scott titt
cmsg 02/May/09 -

Led P1.

with Llewelyn Thomas
lrandall ?/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

Lead 2nd and 3rd pitches

with Matt ?
Hidden 22/Mar/09 2nd O/S
Hidden 22/Mar/09 Lead O/S
Matt Bennett 29/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 09/Jun/08 2nd O/S
HughM ?/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with David Barlow
r@bag 09/May/08 AltLd O/S
Somerset swede basher 09/May/08 AltLd O/S
with Laurence Davis
Dan_Carroll 27/Aug/07 Lead O/S
with Rebecca Holland
Beck Holland 27/Aug/07 2nd rpt
Hidden 11/Jun/07 AltLd
Ian Jones ??/2007 -
Tom Vivian 31/Jul/06 2nd
Mark Kemball 09/Jul/06 AltLd
with Nic Dill
PaulTanton 29/May/06 AltLd O/S
eddy-on-the-rocks 01/May/06 Lead O/S
with Sinbad
leadmat ??/2006 Lead
wojt ??/2006 Lead
Hidden 15/Sep/05 Lead
ewen ?/Sep/05 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Jul/05 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Jul/05 AltLd rpt
lost.arrow 01/May/05 -
feilx ??/2005 Lead O/S
with keith
Hidden 03/Jul/04 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Apr/04 2nd
Hidden ??/2004 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Aug/03 Lead
pezzerrr 13/Aug/03 Lead O/S
cem 18/Jul/03 Lead rpt
with Sally Dipple
Hidden 26/May/03 Lead O/S
Nigel Coe 25/May/03 AltLd
with Norman Wright
William Robertson ??/2003 Lead O/S
with Emily
Samuel P 17/Nov/02 2nd
with Luke
andy_pemberton ?/Dec/01 AltLd
with Steve Gooberman Hill, Katharine Pemberton
Hidden 16/Aug/01 Lead
Hidden ?/Jun/01 AltLd
Hidden 02/Sep/00 AltLd O/S
stuart100 22/May/00 Lead O/S
with Claire Graham
cem 21/Apr/00 2nd
jfletcher 19/Mar/00 Lead
Hidden ?/Jan/00 -
Marti999 ??/2000 Lead
chris sm 23/May/98 Lead O/S
michael burrows 30/Jul/97 2nd
with steve swygart
GAtkins 08/Apr/96 Lead O/S
with David Trelawney-Ross
Mick King 09/Apr/93 Lead
with John Hudson
Hidden 10/Oct/92 Lead O/S
Hidden 12/Aug/91 Lead
charlesmfrench 28/Jul/85 Lead O/S
keefe 30/Aug/84 -
malc 10/Apr/84 2nd dog
Mike Owen 09/Aug/80 Solo rpt
Hidden ??/1980 -
Mike Owen 22/Jul/79 -
with Elaine Watson
Simon cook ??/1977 -
Nigel Bond 22/Jun/75 AltLd
with Ian Duckworth
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