Groove Route* HVS 5b

Rockfax Description
Climb the pleasant shallow groove left of the jutting roof via a short boulder problem sequence. Despite its brevity, it is hard for HVS and hard for 5b! © ROCKFAX

FA. Bill Briggs 1976

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Hidden - Lead dog - 04/Oct/15

Matt Groom - Lead - 12/Aug/15 with Nina

Neal Jobling - 2nd RP - 24/Jun/15 with Tony Flint

MysteriousCeorl - Lead rpt - 26/May/15

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/May/15

Hardcore Pat - Lead O/S - 10/May/15 with Dr Julie

Hidden - Lead - 04/May/15

john lynch - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/15 with esther

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/15 - 2nd dog - 05/Apr/15 with Tony

BenedictIEP - Lead dnf - 27/Mar/15 with Jam Avery

Fell going around the roof
MysteriousCeorl - Lead dnf - 20/Mar/15

Tough! Hard to read and hard for 5b, gear not great either.
Jimbo C - 2nd - 07/Mar/15 with Olly

Don't think it's a "pleasant groove" more like an awkward boulder problem in the sky. Took me 3 goes to get it clean, and even then my foot nearly slipped off.
dr_botnik - Lead RP - 05/Mar/15 with Phil Taylor

brownie mike - Lead O/S - 18/Jan/15

Super sport.well hard
the power - Lead rpt - 17/Jan/15 with chris

After numerous attempts
Palmer - Lead - 17/Jan/15 with Phil Taylor

Palmer - 17/Jan/15 with Phil Taylor

Excellent lead by Tom-really tough climb.
stevelismore - 2nd O/S - 26/Oct/14 with tom pcc

hodge192 - Lead dog - 26/Oct/14 with stevelismore

Hidden - 25/Oct/14

BoulderyDave - Lead RP - 25/Oct/14 with BlizzardLizard

hard for HVS, and doesn't feel well protected.
Nick1812P - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/14 with Matt H

Hidden - 02/Mar/14

the power - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/14 with deacon

Great route but hard at the grade !! Beeeeeeeff....
gazfellows - Lead - 16/Feb/14 with Nic

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

admackie - Lead - 15/Dec/13 with chris palmer

Andy Moles - 2nd - 27/Sep/13 with Ferdia

ferdia - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/13 with Andy

Alkis - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/13 with Adam Butterworth

Nigel Bond - TR - 01/Jul/13 with Bern Hardman

Hidden - TR - 11/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/13

As might be expected, an easy bit with a boulder problem to end. Tough moves
Cake - Lead O/S - 01/Dec/12 with The Power

no fookin way
the power - 2nd dnf - 01/Dec/12 with owen

Hidden - Lead - 27/Oct/12

Went up roof route, couldn't turn the lip so finished up this. Absolutely boxed from attempts on roof route but just scraped up it. Come onto ukc and see that I led roof route 3 years ago lol. My memory is defo getting worse. This section of crag really shows how far hvs can stretch. Groove route, roof route and nonsuch in a day and your probably gonna be ok on steady E2's.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/12

guess I haven't improved much as it didn't seem much easier to lead 5 years after 2nding it!
Graeme Hammond - Lead rpt - 13/Oct/12 with Ewan

riddle - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/12 with Ted Rogers

Andy Fielding - TR - 27/May/12 with Mike Walton

goddamm7 - Lead - 27/May/12 with Sandrex

Charlie Zephyr Booth - Lead O/S - 13/May/12 with martin broadhurst

saffy - Lead O/S - 13/May/12

ranga - 2nd - 13/May/12

helenstuart - 2nd O/S - 06/May/12 with Mike

Started up roof route and got spat out. Was wiped out and gripped on this one!
climbinmunkey - Lead dog - 06/May/12 with Helen

Thought I'd give it another shot after Chris lowered off, but decided to downclimb feeling a little intimidated...
Alex Thompson - TR dnf - 08/Apr/12 with Dreadlocks Chris

lizzie789 - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/12

marcduhig - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/12 with Sexy Liz

sopaz - 2nd - 06/Apr/12

Tom Phillips - TR - 21/Mar/12 with leo

MD - Lead dnf - 11/Mar/12 with Ed

Worked out the sequence after backing off on the lead.
MD - TR dog - 11/Mar/12 with Ed

drcorbasisgod - 2nd O/S - 09/Mar/12 with Charles Moreton

cem - Lead rpt - 09/Mar/12 with Chris Parson

stevorobs3 - Lead O/S - 18/Feb/12 with Xandra

The One With the Tall Boy Beta
missxandrabee - 2nd dog - 18/Feb/12 with Boston Michael, Steve

Tony Kartawick - 2012

AlanPedrick - 2012

JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/11 with JP, Claire Holland

llamaglama - 2nd - 30/Nov/11 with Jam

Tricky and thought provoking, but probably just about 5b once you've worked it out.
victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 18/Nov/11 with James Oswald

Effectively an onsight as I couldn't remember the sequence. Fairly desperate until you figure out how. Palms help.
James Oswald - Lead O/S - 18/Nov/11 with Colin Angus

Spanked on the lead - awkward bu66er!
Andy Hardy - TR - 15/Oct/11

HVS 5a sandbag
Lumbering Oaf - 2nd dog - 07/Oct/11 with Alan Mountford

A tough number. A good route to finish off a great days climbing.
hotfeet - Lead - 07/Oct/11 with Matthew

SteWatkins - Oct/11

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - Oct/11

Very height dependent surely?
Stone Muppet - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/11 with ah

Hold on the lip then move over left.
Chris Craggs - 2nd - 28/Aug/11 with Graham Parkes

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/11

Palmed out to the right hand jug to get stood up in the groove, didn't feel anywhere near 5c like that and went smoothly. We weren't sure if many spot it that way though?? Nice route.
JRae - 07/Aug/11 with Zora, A Saul

Dave Foster - 2nd O/S - 30/Jul/11 with Si

Foot near popped again, new route took some working out
ojp - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/11 with Dave

Standard HVS 5b*.
mark20 - Lead O/S - 24/May/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/11

Finally a fall onto gear.. not sure it's helped me yet though.
kitkat78 - Lead dnf - 21/May/11 with SteveM

JPGR - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/11 with Ben 250

ben_250 - 2nd - 06/Apr/11 with Tom

disturbed_one51 - Lead - 13/Nov/10 with Wee man

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 13/Nov/10 with Mark Williams

Hard. That move is damn hard. 5c IMO.
James Oswald - 2nd RP - 27/Oct/10 with James Rees

VS 5c? Very elegant move.
Stig - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/10 with james oswald

with mark a realy good climb this one
philb - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10

derekb - 2nd O/S - 10/Oct/10 with Steve - PCC

Couldn't commit to the move on lead in spite of being able to hold the hold. Tricky. Will return to slay this one.
James Oswald - Lead dnf - 02/Oct/10 with Neil R

Bit of a struggle but made it eventually. Weird moves required.
AlexxelA - 2nd O/S - Oct/10 with Alex Williams

swoosh - Lead - 17/May/10 with Jamie Armatage

Shauna - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Sari

Hidden - 2nd - 15/May/10

cem - Lead rpt - 09/May/10 with Dave Amos

andymoin - 2nd - 28/Mar/10 with Mark Jarvie

James_D - Lead rpt - 30/Jan/10 with Piers

handjammer - 2010

Quite tricky to find the right moves to get moving up the groove but ok once you do.
jkarran - Lead - 15/Nov/09 with Pete

Dunno how you climb this. Probably about V8
petellis - 2nd dog - 15/Nov/09 with Cleric James Koran

julian allen - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/09

freudy_love - Lead β - 13/Oct/09 with Jim Baird

Eventually came up this after failing on Roof Route (bah, I will return.) The crux move - stepping up while pulling on the crap bulge - must be pretty scary on lead!
andybuckley - TR - 31/May/09 with Dave Williams

tommytwotone - Lead O/S - 03/May/09 with Nigel

Rob put the clips in to the roof but could finish
Mick r - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/09 with big Rob

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Mar/09

Tough for the grade
Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 18/Jan/09 with Marek

aspyrex - 2nd dog - 18/Jan/09 with Martin Haworth

metal arms - Lead O/S - 10/Jan/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/09

simonp - Lead O/S - Jan/09 with Kevin Bradbury

stephenhartley - 2nd - 2009

Richard P Coates - TR dnf - 30/Dec/08 with Mac, ianjfsutcliffe

jimsrankin - Lead - Dec/08 with Andy

Was previously rained off from the crux with Rich.
SteveM - Lead O/S - 22/Nov/08 with Kat

kitkat78 - 2nd - 22/Nov/08 with SteveM

richardhopton - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/08 with AndyM-LVB

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 20/Jul/08

tobydunford - 2nd β - 11/Jul/08 with Harry Martin

mel holmes - Lead - 26/May/08 with Tony Reed

mel holmes - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08 with Tony Reed

cem - Lead rpt - Mar/08 with Luke Whiting

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Feb/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/08

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Andrew Sloan - Lead dog - 23/Dec/07

Awkward (off-)balancey move around roof.
Alex Thompson - 2nd dog - 16/Dec/07 with Haydn Martin & Karl Walton

Andrew Sloan - Lead dog - 01/Dec/07

Peakpdr - Lead O/S - Sep/07 with paul

max_chan - Lead O/S - 20/May/07 with Lou

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 18/May/07

Graeme Hammond - 2nd O/S - 17/Mar/07 with Tom Pascall

jimsrankin - Lead dnf - 11/Mar/07 with Steve

catt - Lead β - 05/Nov/06 with Toby

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 15/Oct/06 with jimbo

Mutl3y - 2nd - 02/May/06 with Iggy

Hidden - TR dnf - 01/May/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/06

Jon Greengrass - Lead dog - 2006 with reeeve

Hidden - 2006

Nicos - Lead O/S - 05/Nov/05 with danny carden

Mark A Humphries - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/05 with gary wood

Desperate. Think a hold had recently come off.
Stig - 2nd dog - Aug/04 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

r0b - 2nd - 11/Apr/04 with Andy Smith

Hidden - Lead O/S - Mar/04

Hidden - Lead - 28/Sep/03

BelleVedere - 2nd - 23/Sep/03 with Lynn McDougall

Tim W - Lead - 05/May/03 with Matthew Thomson

cem - Lead rpt - 12/Jan/03 with Jonathan Astin

A Crook - TR - 12/Jun/02 with Pat Boothman

Hidden - Lead - Jun/02

Hidden - Lead - 16/Feb/02

cem - Lead dnf - 02/Feb/02 with Rob Smithies, Graham Dolman

cem - 2nd β - 02/Feb/02 with Rob Smithies, Graham Dolman

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jan/02

Hidden - Lead rpt - 27/May/01

phardman - Lead O/S - 12/May/01

I remember the crux move feeling quite strenuous and overall pretty hard for the grade - about the same difficulty as a VDiff at the Roaches!
handjammer - Lead O/S - Aug/00

Rich Malcolm - 2nd O/S - 08/Apr/00 with Ian Waterhouse

Boy - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 28/Aug/99

Chris Reid - Lead O/S - 02/Jan/99

Billg - Lead O/S - 1998

Roget - Lead rpt - 20/Sep/97 with jon

Hidden - Lead - 28/Mar/97

very thought provoking - good fun
nickdonohue - Lead - 08/Mar/97 with Steve Corcoran, Dave Chapman

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/May/95

Daniel Wrightson - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/95 with Elisabetta Marinai

rurp - Lead O/S - 1995

craig h - 2nd rpt - 09/Oct/94 with Jim Mellor

Podling - 2nd - Sep/94

charlesmfrench - 2nd O/S - 16/Jan/94

Roget - 2nd O/S - 23/May/93 with colin, baccy

Hidden - Lead - 24/Apr/93

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Mar/93

ChrisJD - Lead - 11/Apr/92 with Alex

rob.grafton - Lead - 10/Apr/92 with jim h, chris pugh, Bruce

craig h - Lead O/S - 27/May/91 with Paul Braithwaite

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 18/May/91 with Martin Veale

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 19/May/90 with Andy Joyce

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Mar/90

leathers - 1990

Marti999 - Lead - 1990

Andy Say - Solo O/S - 17/Oct/89

malc - 2nd - 10/Sep/89

uphillnow - Lead O/S - Feb/89

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