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First Sister** VS 4c

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[Oh sister, where art thou?, 2 kb]12m. The left-hand of the continuous cracks. Climb the thin lower section to good jams in the deeper upper section, then up this to the top. High in the grade and almost 5a. © ROCKFAX
VS 5a in BMC.

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Stanage Routes Graded List, Stanage 100 VD - VS, Stanage VS Challenge (1989 Guide), Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+.

Photo: Oh sister, where art thou? © Tim Rodgers
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This climb is in 268 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

farmerwad - Lead - 18/Apr/14 with Mark

Woodiee - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Tom Pitchforth

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/14 with Rosh

aking12 - Lead - 29/Mar/14 with Adam Fenton, Rosie Lynch

jogh - 2nd - 29/Mar/14 with Vincent

RosieLynch - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/14 with Anthony King, Adam Fenton

youwillfindjimbo - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/14

sazmaz - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/13 with Dan Lanchester-Wright

Brilliant little climb. Unexpected sting in the tail on the last move (crux?)
madasten - Lead - 08/Sep/13 with Nicola, Gaz

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/13

gazfellows - Lead - 08/Sep/13 with Billy nic, steff

MatthewH - Lead - 29/Aug/13

alex thackway - TR O/S - 22/Aug/13 with dave clay

Mike W - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/13

alex led then dropped the rope and i led
michael burrows - Lead β - 27/Jul/13 with Wyn, alexstudly

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/13

Grabbed a cam at the start to place more gear. Needed more confidence.
HIGHTOWER - Lead dog - 27/Jul/13 with Danny Bucknole

Hidden - 12/Jul/13

Gudge - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Helen B

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/13

Agree with 5a. Felt glad to have several small cams.
treg - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Dan Osbaldeston

Dan818 - Lead dog - 01/Jun/13

riff156 - Lead rpt - 05/May/13 with Jo Smith

quickdrawmcraw - Lead - 05/May/13

RCrockford - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Mike B

marcduhig - 2nd O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Richard, Owen

owenhancock22 - TR O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Marc Duhig

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/13

AlanPedrick - 2013

Rob84 - 2nd O/S - 10/Nov/12 with Alex Messenger

Fell off started again, got a bit further rested started again, couldn't commit to the final few moves. Felt hard for VS 4c
JakeWShaw - Lead dnf - 03/Nov/12 with Tom P

tompilgrem - 2nd O/S - 03/Nov/12 with Jake Shaw

Hard work for the grade but still VS.
deacondeacon - Lead - 20/Oct/12

jon_gill1 - 2nd rpt - 20/Oct/12 with big Si

slacky - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with Mark

woodsy - Lead - 06/Oct/12 with dave, rich

Chris wilson - Lead - 23/Sep/12 with Deacon

Nick1812P - Solo O/S - 13/Sep/12

Tim Rodgers - Lead - 09/Sep/12 with Mike Lea, Rod Molyneux

penultimate route. thought it was going to be hard but found it to be very pleasant all the way
Alex@home - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/12 with Tony Moody

J.Atkins - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12

Harri777 - 2nd - 23/Jul/12 with Simon H

Hard for VS.
haydng - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12 with RachelG

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12

RMG - 2nd - 21/Jul/12 with haydng

Hidden - 2nd β - 21/Jul/12

John Roberts (JR) - AltLd rpt - 15/Jul/12 with Ben Wolstenholme

icantthinkrightnow - Lead - 15/Jul/12 with S. Milnes

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Jul/12

Ben Wolstenholme - Jul/12

Hidden - 2nd - 16/May/12

mark20 - Lead O/S - 16/May/12

Rick hard Rock - 2nd O/S - 05/May/12 with steve_yo

sopaz - 2nd - 15/Apr/12

pigeonslipper - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12

the power - 2nd - 26/Feb/12 with paul29uk

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/12

big djw - 2nd - 2012

adie84 - 2012

admackie - 2012

lozowen - Lead O/S - 29/Oct/11 with Sally Owen

John led
tsjx - 2nd - 15/Oct/11

nutty_didz - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Josh Dickerson

AC - 2nd dog - 15/Oct/11

Dibdawg - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Jeph Stewart

Sandbag
Ffej - 2nd dog - 15/Oct/11 with Alan Dibben

Josh Dickerson - 2nd O/S - 15/Oct/11 with nutty_didz

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Oct/11

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/11 with Mikael

Good sequence up the obvious steep bit in the first half. Gear seems okay but a bit tricky to place.
djones66 - 2nd O/S - 10/Sep/11 with Stve mc D

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Sep/11

Excellant climb, top end VS.Tricky start.
ffdalton - Lead O/S - Sep/11 with Dean Dalton

Jonathan Hall - Lead - 29/Aug/11 with Mark Williams

Tamati - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/11

disturbed_one51 - 2nd - 29/Aug/11 with Wee man

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/11

malc - 2nd rpt - 15/Aug/11 with Paul Scott

manwithacam - Lead - 14/Aug/11 with Joris

Becky E - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/11 with John Maxfield PCC

petellis - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Sloth

Joris.Roulleau - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Dan Metcalfe

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Aug/11

Julie Carroll - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/11 with Paul Williams

tricky if you haven't been on grit for a while
caradoc - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/11 with nick yapp

ChrisBrooke - Lead rpt - 03/Jul/11 with John Inkpen

rich_hw - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/11 with Matt

max_chan - 2nd rpt - 23/Jun/11 with Richard PCC

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/11 with Andy J

riff156 - 2nd - 04/Jun/11 with Paul Williamson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead dnf - 24/Apr/11

Bottom section easy enough. Top section very 'traditional'!
stratandrew - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Jim Symon, Colin Maddison

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - 2nd rpt - 17/Apr/11 with Fran Santos

Fran S8 - Lead - 17/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd β - 15/Apr/11

max_chan - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Phil PCC

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo rpt - 09/Apr/11

Had about a minute's rest on a cam. Poor show.
stuaart - Lead dog - 09/Apr/11 with Kat Torr, Thomas Smith

Stu Lead
thomasaneurinsmith - 2nd - 09/Apr/11 with Katherine Torr, Stuart Reeves

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Apr/11

shaky2 - 2nd - 06/Apr/11

good day to celebrate the clocks going forward! This being the highlight of the day
samsimpson - Solo O/S - 27/Mar/11

roped solo, 1 rest on gear
timofy - Lead dog - 14/Mar/11

thekendo - 2nd O/S - 14/Mar/11 with andy peak 1

Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 14/Mar/11 with kenney

Josephine - 2nd - 2011 with Mike Freeman

David Smith - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2011

mwatson - 2011

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Oct/10

shed_hed - TR O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Zoe Marshall

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Oct/10

Good climbing - top end VS
Pete Nugent - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Nick Bennett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10

danoflynn - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10 with Cat Black

benjizac - TR O/S - 12/Sep/10 with Rory Juss

Climber1806 - 2nd O/S - 03/Sep/10

Maxim2023 - Lead - Sep/10

johnwilson123 - Sep/10 with paul

jon_gill1 - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/10 with steve smith

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Jamie

clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Anna

Hidden - Lead - 02/Aug/10

tomB - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10 with Juliette

nick ferro - 05/Jun/10

tradguy - 2nd rpt - 31/May/10 with Ed Lamb

ed_1973 - Lead - 31/May/10 with paul highams

Had problems near the top. Moved out left to bypass a hard move only to be confronted with a different kind of hard move.
lucasp - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with ditch

chrisallan - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10

sshandy - 2nd - 24/Apr/10 with Silver Surfer

The Bad Cough - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Christian Minett

Si dH - 2nd rpt - 15/Apr/10 with Gary

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/10

Hard for vs
jhardwick - 2nd - 10/Apr/10 with chris vernon

kermit_uk - Lead dog - 10/Apr/10 with Steve Woolass

Found the top move hard for 4c, but well protected. Nice moves.
jeffsheard - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/10 with Sarah Davis

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Apr/10

Hidden - TR - 28/Mar/10

Seymore Butt - 2010

mattcyp88 - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Claire Brown

ian d f - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Zak

melonmike - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/09 with Andy Lole

Hidden - Solo - 20/Sep/09

dan gibson - Lead rpt - 20/Sep/09 with AJ, michael porter

Found this tricky for 4c, but then I'm not good at layback moves! Did this after 'second sister' and found second sister harder. (Though both are vs 4c aparently...mmmm)
catblack - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/09 with Dad

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead dog - 13/Sep/09

Ben_Bullbridge - 2nd β - 09/Sep/09 with Milne

Milne - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/09 with cooper

matthewjames - 2nd O/S - 22/Aug/09 with Alan Saul

Pretty hard for VS! Stepped up and put a good high cam in, some awkward laybacking then a really weird move pulling through a layback to a gaston to jam in crack to the left. Almost fell as my foot slipped off a small crystal on the left wall but managed to right myself and get a good old bomber hand jam in. Then the top move takes a bit of thinking about but when you figure it out its okay.
Reaver2k - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/09 with Matt Marshall

Mattyk - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/09 with Jamie Moss

Hidden - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/09

found it easier today but still 5a
Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 12/Jul/09 with Rob

Ketu - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/09 with Graeme H

Hidden - 2nd dog - 05/Jul/09

Lil'Lou - TR - 05/Jul/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/09

philboy - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/09 with bisanth

the warm up, or not found hard for grade (definatly 5a) especially the damp section that day at the top.
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Greg Slee

Shauna - Lead O/S - 31/May/09 with Jules

vard - Lead O/S - 28/May/09 with tom valentine

scary
Ben Sidsaph - Lead O/S - 24/May/09 with Guy Buckingham

givemetea - TR O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Hannah Heywood

garywong - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Perry Keller

lazybones - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09 with George Foster

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 27/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/08

b.hayley - Lead - Sep/08

Laurence Everitt - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Ant Schwirtz

ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Mark (UBMC)

feilx - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/08

SimonBrown - Lead - 08/Jun/08 with Mark Pilling

MaccMark - 2nd - 08/Jun/08 with Simon Brown

Hidden - TR dog - 24/May/08

Lead on partner's gear after he fell from near the top. some tricky moves near the end.
jugglingeek - Lead β - 05/May/08 with Josh

Hidden - 2nd - 03/May/08

Tim Bateman - 2nd - May/08 with Alistair

Alfredo - Lead - May/08 with Ben H

Andrew Sloan - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/08 with Richard

danm - Lead - Feb/08 with Sion

Jim Walton - 2008

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

dan gibson - 2008

Hidden - Lead - 2008

this felt hard for the grade
Pilch - 2nd O/S - 20/Oct/07 with Graham

malc - Lead rpt - 07/Oct/07 with Paul and Andy

PenJD - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/07 with Ruth Smitton

Hidden - Solo - 27/Aug/07

Borderline HVS 5a - found the final moves quite committing
Chris the Tall - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/07 with Simon Shaw

Another James - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/07 with Megan F

dan gibson - 16/Jun/07

twodada - Lead - 10/Jun/07 with Rich B and Kiwi Pete

mooseloose - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Keith

mje1398 - 2nd dog - 03/Jun/07 with John M

Brown - Solo O/S - 01/May/07 with John

Need to check this, it might be another sister I climbed
Hodge - Lead - 29/Apr/07 with Dan

John Marsland - 2nd - 14/Apr/07 with John Haslam

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Apr/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

matthewss - 2nd O/S - 03/Feb/07 with Miles & Sarah

nai - Lead - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Smeegan - Lead O/S - 2007 with Owen

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2007

Pythonist - Solo O/S - 09/Oct/06 with Cara-lyn Reynolds

wahniel - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/06 with Stewart McConnell

catt - 2nd - 25/Jun/06 with Will

Wilbur - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/06 with Iain

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/06

Stig - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/06 with Les

ewen - Lead - Apr/06

Paul Tomo - 2nd - 23/Mar/06 with Paul James

Si dH - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/05 with Karl Walton

al99 - AltLd O/S - Jul/05 with Nick Record

LoopyLou - Lead O/S - Jul/05 with Helen Lear

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/05

Hidden - Lead - 18/Jun/05

cem - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/05 with Miles Butteriss

reg_measures - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/05 with Angela Kirby

ChrisBrooke - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/05 with John Inkpen

Hidden - Lead - 05/Sep/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/04

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 01/May/04 with Anthony Hams

Nicos - Lead O/S - 29/Dec/03 with mark richardson

Marq - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/03 with Daniel Dennehy

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Oct/03

Hidden - Lead - 03/Aug/03

Nick Smith - UKC - Lead - Aug/03

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/03

Hidden - 2nd - Jul/03

rob.grafton - 2nd - 12/Apr/03 with Bruce

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jun/02

shoulders - Lead - 19/May/02 with tom

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/May/02

Roget - Solo O/S - 01/Jul/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/01

tuftynick - Lead - 2001

Hidden - Lead - 06/May/00

tlr - Lead - 2000

buxtoncoffeelover - Lead - 08/May/99

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/98

babymoac - Lead - 21/Jun/98 with Ken Prandy

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/98

Hidden - Solo - 14/Sep/97

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Jul/96

Hidden - 29/Jun/96

tradguy - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/96 with Ed Lamb

ed_1973 - 2nd - 12/Jun/96 with paul highams

rurp - 1996

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/95

cragspud - Lead O/S - 1995

Chris Ellis - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/94 with Rachel Nicolson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/94

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/90

Andy Say - Solo - 17/Oct/87

John Marsland - Solo - 08/Dec/84

malc - Lead - 15/Jul/84

Dave Musgrove - 28/Aug/83

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Sep/80

Nigel Bond - Lead - 30/Sep/79 with Dave Grey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/78

Mark Kemball - Lead - 02/Oct/76 with Ian Grace

mikej - Solo - 30/May/70 with Dave Williams, E

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VS11 of 57
easy VS0 of 57
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HS0 of 57
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hard 5a0 of 57
5a3 of 57
easy 5a37 of 57
hard 4c10 of 57
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Style of ascent

Soloed19 of 268 (7.1%)
Lead139 of 268 (51.9%)
Followed80 of 268 (29.9%)
Toproped8 of 268 (3.0%)
Alt Leads3 of 268 (1.1%)
Unknown19 of 268 (7.1%)

'Climbed'108 of 268 (40.3%)
clean O/S128 of 268 (47.8%)
clean β5 of 268 (1.9%)
clean rpt14 of 268 (5.2%)
dogged11 of 268 (4.1%)
dnf2 of 268 (0.7%)