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Second Sister* VS 4c

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[Second Sister, 3 kb]10m. The continuous thin crack is deceptive. © ROCKFAX
FA. Alan McHardy 1961

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This climb is in 213 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

Jake Young - Solo O/S - 03/Aug/14

Dibdawg - Solo O/S - 18/Jul/14

Rachel Slater - Solo O/S - 13/Jul/14

nick ferro - 05/Jul/14

Lacked both holds and gear in the first 5 or so meters leading to a very bold lead by Alex. I struggled at the start and had to rest on the rope 2 or 3 times as my hands just kept peeling off.
MPSBunny - 2nd dog - 22/Jun/14 with Alex Ried

not all that easy, and the gear in the lower reaches is poor
GermanAlex - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14 with BenJ

sam26051 - Lead dog - 16/Jun/14 with AlexFletcher

Batt - 2nd O/S - 01/Jun/14 with James Hoyes

Hoyes - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14 with Rachel B

gilmour_789 - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/14 with rmalone

Woodiee - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Tom Pitchforth

Matt Cooke - 2nd β - 12/Apr/14 with Rosh

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Mar/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/13

adamashcroft - 2nd - 31/Aug/13

Gareth Waite - 2nd - 22/Aug/13 with Laurie Holt, Alex Thackway

alex thackway - TR O/S - 22/Aug/13 with Laurie Holt, Gareth W

Laurie Holt - 2nd - 22/Aug/13 with Alex Thackway, Gareth Waite

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Aug/13

michael burrows - Solo O/S - 27/Jul/13 with alexstudly

Hidden - Solo O/S - 27/Jul/13

Hidden - 12/Jul/13

Gudge - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Helen B

helin - Lead - 05/Jul/13 with chris

Stanage HVS
migs493 - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/13 with LO

joesmith - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/13 with tony

treg - 2nd - 01/Jun/13 with Dan Osbaldeston

Dan818 - 2nd dog - 01/Jun/13

chrisallan - Lead O/S - 19/May/13

bigbobbyking - Lead O/S - 19/May/13 with Chris Allan

ianjfsutcliffe - Lead O/S - 12/May/13 with Coatesy

riff156 - Lead O/S - 05/May/13 with Jo Smith

nai - 2nd - 04/May/13 with Neil, Tom2t

slacky - Lead O/S - 04/May/13 with Tom Crane, Ian

tommytwotone - 2nd - 04/May/13

RCrockford - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Mike B

marcduhig - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Richard, Owen

martin one - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Nick

owenhancock22 - TR O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Marc Duhig

aking12 - 13/Mar/13 with john lynch

ash longreach - 2nd - Jan/13 with jim

First VS i've failed to lead in a while, found it nails on second too.
JHiley - 2nd - 27/Oct/12

atom - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Mark Watkins

jon_gill1 - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/12 with big Si

nails for VS 4c
ashtond6 - Lead - 06/Oct/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 16/May/12

sopaz - 2nd - 15/Apr/12

gregoritos - Solo O/S - 15/Apr/12

RosieLynch - 2nd O/S - Apr/12 with Anthony King, john lynch

Hidden - 2nd dog - 26/Mar/12

Mr Christian - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/12 with chris p duck

john lynch - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/12 with Ant King

petekeron - Solo O/S - Mar/12 with Solo

big djw - Lead - 2012

Rob84 - 2nd O/S - 2012 with Alex Messenger

chris p duck - Lead O/S - 2012 with Chris R

lozowen - Lead O/S - 29/Oct/11 with Sally Owen

nutty_didz - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Josh Dickerson

Josh Dickerson - 2nd O/S - 15/Oct/11 with nutty_didz

fatbuoybazza - 2nd O/S - 10/Sep/11 with Mikael

Mikael - Lead - 10/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/11

rich_hw - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/11 with JohnBramwell

malc - 2nd rpt - 15/Aug/11 with Paul Scott

slopey
manwithacam - 2nd - 14/Aug/11 with Joris

petellis - 2nd β - 13/Aug/11 with Sloth

Joris.Roulleau - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Dan Metcalfe

Neil led. Crux before you get to any pro. VS climbing but not a VS situation in my book.
stuaart - 2nd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Sandra McCabe, Neil Redgrave

Hidden - 2nd dog - 15/Apr/11

nice start to the season
ojp - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Dave, Robin

Better and a bit harder than it looks.
Dave Foster - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Si

climbing_rocks1983 - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Ruth, Petey

robin_hackney - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Dave Foster, Simon Petty

That first piece of gear felt a long way up.
shugsan - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with John Nelson

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/11

butt_crack_123 - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Pete, My Angel

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/11

Sam Simpson - Solo O/S - 27/Mar/11

MorganPreece - Solo - 26/Mar/11

thekendo - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/11 with andy peak 1

roped solo
timofy - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/11

Andy Peak 1 - 2nd - 14/Mar/11 with kenney

backed off the start, no gear for a long way. a boulder mat would tame this interesting route
Chrisc4 - 2nd - 23/Jan/11

David Smith - 2011

mwatson - 2011

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Oct/10

backed off the start - no gear - HVS 4c?
Pete Nugent - Lead dnf - 16/Oct/10 with Nick Bennett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10

benjizac - TR - 12/Sep/10 with Rory Juss

Climber1806 - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/10

johnwilson123 - Sep/10 with paul

clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Anna

Hidden - Lead - 02/Aug/10

frankcp87 - 2nd - 25/Jun/10 with Ian Holbrook

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jun/10

ben_250 - 20/Jun/10 with Dave, Andrew

ben_250 - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10 with Dave, Andrew

tough at the grade
mills85 - Lead dog - 20/Jun/10 with czech andrew, Ben Nolan

tradguy - Lead O/S - 31/May/10 with Ed Lamb

ed_1973 - 2nd - 31/May/10 with paul highams

The Bad Cough - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Christian Minett

Creep_pea - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Walsh

Si dH - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/10 with Gary

sketchy pro at the start for a vs easy once the gear is in
jhardwick - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/10 with chris vernon

Seymore Butt - 2010

First time on a rope after two or three months injured and it certainly showed.
kingholmesy - Lead dog - 2010 with Tom Eagle

AielSavage - Lead O/S - 2010

mattcyp88 - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Claire Brown

ian d f - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Zak

melonmike - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/09 with Andy Lole

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/Sep/09

Hidden - Solo - 20/Sep/09

dan gibson - Lead rpt - 20/Sep/09 with AJ, michael porter

Hidden - Lead - 14/Sep/09

Found this very hard for VS. Gear is there (just), but took so long trying to find and place it I got v tired then paniced, grabbed a runner, and had to be lowered off! Had a rest, and then managed it in 1 go.
catblack - Lead RP - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/09

jcurley - Lead dog - 05/Sep/09 with Mark Cousen

Lisaaa - 2nd - 22/Aug/09 with Mike Watson

Mattyk - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/09 with Jamie Moss

Hidden - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/09

Rested on the second (first decent) piece of gear after finding things a bit trickier than anticipated. Annoyingly, then did the next move easily. This route gets HVS 5a in the new Stanage guide which seems a more realistic grade (given that the first half of this route felt harder than Right-Hand Tower).
Ant Man Bee - Lead dog - 12/Jul/09 with Andy Buckley

Kirill - 2nd - 12/Jul/09 with Charles Moreton

babymoac - 2nd - 12/Jul/09 with Paul Bolton

cem - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/09 with Kirill Spiridonov

hard uprotected moves on the lower setion on mostly rounded holds but uch easier above. Is HVS 5a in my new Stanage guide, top end VS bottom end HVS you decide...
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Greg Slee

Tadams - Lead - 03/Jun/09 with Eddie Garside

Ben Sidsaph - 2nd O/S - 24/May/09 with Guy Buckingham

morrisdaboss - Lead RP - 18/Oct/08 with Handy Vicks

torialou - 2nd - 18/Oct/08 with Pete

Matt Smith - TR dnf - 17/Oct/08 with Paddy Williams, John Tanner, Matt Lewin

mrstarwarsman - TR - 17/Oct/08 with matt smith

Protection very poor on the bottom half. Got in half a DMM nut. None of the resting spots were very restful either - so pleased with myself but not in a hurry to do again :-)
Mrs Weasel - Lead - 28/Sep/08 with JiveWeasel

JiveWeasel - 2nd - 28/Sep/08 with Mrs Weasel

chrisbussell - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Debbie Porter

chrisbussell - Lead - 28/Sep/08 with Debbie Porter

gravity - 2nd - 21/Sep/08 with Ian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08

smudge - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/08 with Rob

Was going to back off until I spotted the good cam under the small roof to the right. Then took ages to get a nut in became pumped and fell off. Nice route but tough VS.
Another James - Lead - 28/Jul/08 with Jamie T

Laurence Everitt - 2nd dog - 14/Jun/08 with Ant Schwirtz

ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Mark (UBMC)

feilx - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/08

LankyPaddy - Lead O/S - 11/May/08 with Sophie Price

SKippy5 - 2nd - 11/May/08 with Ed Northridge

After debating the saftey of this route for some time. The only gear seamed to be and RP4 quite some distance from the next good placement. While getting to a stance to place the second piece I slipped and fell. The RP held and I got back on and finished up.
jugglingeek - Lead dog - 05/May/08 with will

Hidden - 2nd - 03/May/08

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

dan gibson - 2008

stuc - Lead O/S - 2008

SamStrong - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Greg Kieckhefer

malc - 2nd rpt - 07/Oct/07 with Paul and Andy

Hidden - Solo - 27/Aug/07

dan gibson - 16/Jun/07

this was greasy, with no real protection on the lower 3rd. Discretion said back off. down climbed to do another day.
twodada - Lead dnf - 10/Jun/07 with Rich B and Kiwi Pete

BallsofBritishSteel - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Sailor Pete

Hidden - Lead - Jun/07

Hidden - 2nd - Jun/07

took over the lead
Stig - Lead rpt - 20/May/07 with Maciek

Brown - Solo O/S - 01/May/07 with John

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

nai - Lead - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Pete Horn - 2nd β - 2007 with The artist formerly known as Smokey Rob

pauldr - 2007 with phill

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2007

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/06 with martina

Caralynh - 2nd - 13/Oct/06 with Gavin

Cameron13 - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/06 with Caralynr

wahniel - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/06 with Stewart McConnell

Apparently HVS in the new BMC guide. Certainly felt like a sandbag at VS!
catt - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/06 with Will

Wilbur - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/06 with Iain

Nicos - Solo O/S - 29/Apr/06 with solo

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Apr/06

Stig - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/06 with Les

mahjongg - TR dog - 11/Mar/06 with Col

al99 - AltLd O/S - Jul/05 with Nick Record

LoopyLou - Lead O/S - Jul/05 with Helen Lear

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/05

ChrisBrooke - 2nd - 16/Apr/05 with John Inkpen

Budge - 2nd O/S - 20/Mar/05 with Mike Oates

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/04

cem - 2nd - 17/Apr/04 with Rod Strachan

Hidden - Lead - 2004

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Oct/03 with Ian Lovatt

Hidden - Lead - Aug/03

Hidden - Solo - Aug/03

chris sm - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/03 with Pippa Froggatt

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/03

Hidden - 2nd - 11/May/03

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/May/02

Hidden - 2nd - 06/May/00

Rock Fairy - 2nd - 2000

babymoac - 2nd - 21/Jun/98 with Ken Prandy

Hidden - Solo - 14/Sep/97

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 19/Jul/97

craig h - Solo O/S - 10/Aug/96

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/95

cragspud - Lead O/S - 1995

steve prior - Lead - Dec/90

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/90

Hidden - Solo - 14/Jun/90

Andy Say - Solo - 17/Oct/87

malc - Lead - 24/Jun/84

Hidden - Solo - 07/Sep/80

Nigel Bond - Lead - 30/Sep/79 with Dave Grey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/78

Mark Kemball - Lead - 02/Oct/76 with Ian Grace

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Apr/76

mikej - Solo - 30/May/70 with Dave Williams, E

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Voting
Total votes cast 119
hard HVS0 of 42
HVS3 of 42
easy HVS16 of 42
hard VS19 of 42
VS4 of 42
easy VS0 of 42
hard HS0 of 42
HS0 of 42
easy HS0 of 42
hard 5a0 of 41
5a3 of 41
easy 5a12 of 41
hard 4c17 of 41
4c9 of 41
easy 4c0 of 41
hard 4b0 of 41
4b0 of 41
easy 4b0 of 41
3 Stars0 of 36
2 Stars7 of 36
1 Star26 of 36
0 Stars3 of 36
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Style of ascent

Soloed30 of 213 (14.1%)
Lead95 of 213 (44.6%)
Followed67 of 213 (31.5%)
Toproped6 of 213 (2.8%)
Alt Leads2 of 213 (0.9%)
Unknown13 of 213 (6.1%)

'Climbed'81 of 213 (38.0%)
clean O/S107 of 213 (50.2%)
clean β3 of 213 (1.4%)
clean rpt5 of 213 (2.3%)
clean RP2 of 213 (0.9%)
dogged12 of 213 (5.6%)
dnf3 of 213 (1.4%)