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[Julian's first E2 after reaching the age of 50, 3 kb]8m. The centre of the pocketed slab is especially taxing for the short; beware the final reachy moves. Gear is minimal! © ROCKFAX
FA traditionally credited to Gary Gibson, but also claimed by Brian Cropper, who called it Pocket wall, with Tim Leach doing the second ascent
See above 1978

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Best slab climbs of the UK.

Photo: Julian's first E2 after reaching the age of 50 © j.brown960@btinternet.com
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 175 logbooks, and on 6 wishlists.

Retro Rowan - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Mike Smith

migs493 - TR rpt - 19/Apr/14

Nick1812P - Solo O/S - 10/Mar/14

oddessy_uk - TR O/S - 09/Mar/14

Marcin78 - TR - 09/Mar/14 with Paul Ingate

adi bryant - Lead - 19/Jan/14 with christianbreeze

Bouldering mat, sideways rp5 collection of shite friends, geÓr aside the climbing is quite easy and excellent.
rurp - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/13 with bill farmer

Soft for a 5c.
woody0606 - TR - 05/Oct/13

Hidden - TR O/S - 29/Aug/13

Struggled on the bottom part even with a helpful top rope.
Dave Toseland - TR - 29/Aug/13 with Dan, Fred

sparkass - Solo O/S - 19/May/13

Hidden - 2nd - 19/May/13

peteramsden - TR O/S - May/13

Snowball. 5b
Cake - Sent O/S - 09/Apr/13 with Matt

Hidden - Sent O/S - 09/Apr/13

mark20 - Sent O/S - 06/Apr/13

Snowball, quite a deep drift so missing the start though.
AlistairB - Sent x - 06/Apr/13 with Neil, Mark Rankine

Nice moves but very eliminate. No siderunners used (in fact no gear at all) and with a snowy topout felt a little worrying. E2 5C in the Stanage definitive, E2 5C on the rockfax database and user comments on both sites are heavily suggesting E2 which I would agree with. So why E1 on here?
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/13

Hidden - TR β - 27/Oct/12

ashsleight - TR O/S - 08/Oct/12

Zoomer - TR O/S - 08/Oct/12 with A Student

Benn A - TR - 21/Sep/12

howden82 - TR RP - 09/Sep/12 with rkipling

Hidden - TR O/S - 08/Sep/12

KiaranR - TR O/S - 08/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/Aug/12

No gear!
migs493 - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Pete Skinsley

gordonday - TR O/S - 22/Jul/12 with clive

Side-runner
Coel Hellier - Lead - 12/Jul/12

Soloed (no mats) in light drizzle after doing it once on top rope, bottom move is by far the hardest and the top section is probably 5a max. So maybe the old grade of E1 5c is right
Graeme Hammond - Solo RP - 14/Jun/12 with Mike Tutt

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with Tom Jagger

with a side runner, had no idea about the top section and my cams wern't small enough
mattorford - Lead - 27/Mar/12

stefie c - 2nd - 27/Mar/12 with Matt Orford

Alessandro Tentori - TR dog - Mar/12 with Paolo Fubini

Mark Collins - Solo O/S - 06/Nov/11

disturbed_one51 - Lead - 02/Nov/11 with Wee man

Lead, although the gear on the face (of which there is some small stuff) didn't inspire confidence!
Jonathan Hall - Lead - 02/Nov/11 with Mark Williams

Led it after having a quick go on toprope and didn't place siderunners - felt E2
Jay C - Lead RP - 29/Oct/11 with Tom D

cragspud - Lead - 01/Oct/11

j.brown960@btinternet.com - TR dog - 09/Jul/11

Hidden - Solo RP - 11/May/11

E2, why would you place side runners?
AMarchant - Solo RP - 11/May/11 with Ally Hurst

Hidden - TR - 16/Apr/11

Chris held my ropes, but couldn't find any gear placements. Not sure as hard/serious as E2 5c in new guide. Eased up past the pockets even for short me.
Alex Thompson - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Dreadlocks Chris

not too bad despite climbing like a spesh most of the day, felt well eliminate
Ollie B - Solo O/S - 06/Apr/11

hardest move at safe height, a real shame its such an eliminate with the cracks so close because the moves are fun and precise
GuyVG - Solo O/S - 29/Mar/11 with Steve

JRae - Solo - 29/Mar/11

Ram MkiV - Solo O/S - 29/Mar/11 with Guy

barrowclough - TR RP - 19/Mar/11

haylow - TR - 19/Mar/11

Hidden - Solo - 2011

Hidden - TR RP - 09/Oct/10

went for the eliminate bouldery line, avoiding everything to do with the cracks either side. Would only be E1 if you share holds/gear with routes either side.
jacobjlloyd - Solo O/S - 09/Oct/10

nickevens - TR β - 09/Oct/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/Oct/10

Boy - Solo O/S - 04/Oct/10 with Fiona Fullwood

Thought this was an onsight whilst Mike was teaching Ollie how to climb properly- but turns out I soloed it back in '85 when it was HVS. 1st time on grit for far too many years. Thanks for the re-introduction Mike.
KRB - Solo rpt - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - TR - 12/Sep/10

CRiddiford - TR dog - 12/Sep/10 with James Hately, Steve Gaines

Hidden - TR O/S - 04/Sep/10

mlok2000 - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Vin Bondah, Sheldon Webb

jenniferanncleaver - TR - 03/Sep/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 03/Jul/10

Well pleased to get up this at my age
j.brown960@btinternet.com - TR - 03/Jul/10

Horrible hot day made this feel E2. The cams in the pockets are quite rubbish.
chris sm - Lead - 26/Jun/10 with Cheesesarnie

I guess the E1 grade is if you use side runners
Tim M - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Chris Sims

Didn's place any gear, more of a solo!
Will_Maxwell - Lead O/S - 31/May/10 with Pete

I'm 5'8 and this didn't seem reachy but it might be if you took a pointlessly blinkered line right up the middle of the slab.
Andrew Barker - Solo O/S - 09/May/10 with Tom Lyons, Cat Black

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo rpt - 05/Apr/10

+Pads, nice last move!
byronic - Solo - 05/Apr/10

john lynch - Solo O/S - 03/Mar/10 with Neil Elmore

Seymore Butt - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/09

Hidden - TR O/S - 10/Oct/09

andycooper - TR RP - 10/Oct/09

JCB42 - TR O/S - 10/Oct/09

Hidden - TR - Oct/09

g_quaglia - TR O/S - Sep/09

Side runners (again). Without would be E2...
BruceW - Lead rpt - 16/Aug/09 with Becca, Mark, Ju

Crappy conditions and lack of faith in the one poor runner, escaped off level with the gear after going up and down the top section a few times. Gutted, will return in better conditions.
AlistairB - Lead dnf - 15/Aug/09 with Johan

Hidden - Lead - 14/Aug/09

Chris Craggs - 2nd - 09/Aug/09 with Colin Binks

mike bridges - TR O/S - 03/Aug/09 with Robert Bridges

tompilgrem - TR dnf - 02/Aug/09 with Dad

wolverine - 25/Jun/09

Rachel Somerville - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/09 with Cath Sullivan and Des Chadderton

Scary.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09 with andy

E2 5c, Route87, p49
HansUDes - TR O/S - 25/May/09

daviesp2 - TR - 13/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Mar/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Mar/09

Hidden - 05/Mar/09

Hidden - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Pretty dissapointed i didn't go for the lead, next time...
TGreen - TR O/S - 11/Oct/08 with Rosie Henstock

Lev - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/08 with Emma Ross

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Aug/08

Brown - Solo O/S - 16/Aug/08

duzinga - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/08 with Jim and Guido

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/08

Hidden - 10/Aug/08

JohnAI - 2nd - Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 04/Jul/08

feilx - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/08

LankyPaddy - Lead O/S - 31/May/08 with Sophie Price

SKippy5 - 2nd - 31/May/08 with Ed Northridge

Failed a solo shortly after - bottled it about two thirds height, just before reaching the pebble.
dfbpdave - TR O/S - 10/May/08

Ben1983 - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/08

johnwilson123 - 2008

Hidden - 2008

tomparrott - Lead - 21/Oct/07 with DJ

deejmonkey - 2nd - 21/Oct/07 with Tom

dan gibson - Solo - 07/Oct/07 with AJ

dicky79 - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Pete

Hidden - TR - 25/Aug/07

Struggled up this one!
Thomas L - TR dog - 02/Jun/07 with Chris Britton

cmsg - Solo O/S - 28/Apr/07

Hidden - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/07

Bottled the solo at the top so tied on to a passing top-rope...
Monk - TR O/S - 07/Apr/07

craig matheson - Solo - Apr/07

tobydunford - 2nd β - 24/Mar/07 with Jemma Powell

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/06

viking - 2nd - Sep/06 with gareth

Hidden - TR O/S - Sep/06

Hidden - TR - 15/Jul/06

Did it twice, slightly differant finishes. Started on the left - may have done it more direct in the past
Chris the Tall - Solo rpt - 13/Jul/06

Iggy_B - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/06 with Jana Urbankova

mikej - TR - 02/Jun/06 with Rick Naylor

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Oct/05

Andy Chubb - 01/May/05 with Steve Goodman

A nemesis!
BruceW - Lead O/S - Apr/05 with Jen

andi_e - Solo RP - 10/Oct/04

Smelly Fox - Solo O/S - 18/Jul/04

Bailed out into uno cracks 3/4 way up due to no small cams and no placed gear....
samwelli - Lead dnf - 28/Mar/04 with Reuben Brown

Daniel Armitage - Solo O/S - 25/May/03

Carl Smethurst - TR - 30/Mar/03 with Ian Pickles

BenTiffin - Solo O/S - 2003

Hidden - TR - 2003

Dave Musgrove Jnr - 13/Feb/01 with Viv

Hidden - 2000

tuftynick - Lead - 2000

Hidden - 2000

Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - Apr/99 with Hazel Jonas, Steve Jonas

Trobbo - 2nd - 25/Jul/98 with john blower

kato'sdad - TR - Sep/97 with Rob Simpson

RobSimmo - TR - Sep/97 with Jon Berry

phardman - Lead - 14/Sep/96

kato'sdad - 2nd - Apr/96

Hidden - Lead - 06/Aug/95

Hidden - 06/Aug/95

cragspud - Lead - May/94

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Oct/93

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/93

epic ed - TR O/S - 20/Jun/92 with Claire M

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 04/May/92 with Andy Bell, Paul Farmer

Protected by a dodgy friend which came out when Dave tugged on the rope
Chris the Tall - Lead O/S - May/92 with Dave Gurney

Roget - Solo O/S - 02/Aug/91

steve taylor - Solo - Jul/90 with Jim Waddington

Hidden - Solo - 13/Jun/90

Chris the Tall - Solo rpt - Sep/88

goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 20/Mar/88

Raggar - 2nd - 1988 with Dave S

mark-abz - TR - 13/Jun/87 with Andy W

Hidden - Solo - 31/May/87

Tom V - Solo - 1985

sadams - Solo - 06/Jan/84

andy gittins - 1980

Chris Craggs - 1980

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Hidden, rkipling, Joshh, Alan100, Hidden, Hidden

Voting
Total votes cast 180
hard E20 of 63
E22 of 63
easy E242 of 63
hard E19 of 63
E14 of 63
easy E13 of 63
hard HVS3 of 63
HVS0 of 63
easy HVS0 of 63
hard 6a0 of 63
6a0 of 63
easy 6a0 of 63
hard 5c2 of 63
5c46 of 63
easy 5c5 of 63
hard 5b8 of 63
5b2 of 63
easy 5b0 of 63
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Style of ascent

Soloed42 of 175 (24.0%)
Lead43 of 175 (24.6%)
Followed21 of 175 (12.0%)
Toproped51 of 175 (29.1%)
Bouldered4 of 175 (2.3%)
Unknown14 of 175 (8.0%)

'Climbed'72 of 175 (41.1%)
clean O/S76 of 175 (43.4%)
clean β3 of 175 (1.7%)
clean rpt6 of 175 (3.4%)
clean RP10 of 175 (5.7%)
dogged4 of 175 (2.3%)
dnf4 of 175 (2.3%)