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CC Gogarth Guide - Where is it?

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Mick Ryan

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On the 7th August 2006, Martin Koscis asked on the Climbers' Club forum where was the new Gogarth guidebook? "Searching various forums (fora?) I seem unable to locate any info about the next guide. What can anyone tell me?"

No one answered.

This seems a common refrain wherever climbers gather. I even heard moans at Malham this summer about the dragging of feet over its publication (yes some climbers do sport climb and trad climb) . Word directed at this author, on a street in North Wales last Friday, was that even the BMC had offered to second their guidebook supremo Niall Grimes (website) to lend a hand and get things moving.

The last Climbers' Club (CC) Gogarth Guide(website) was published in 1990 and reprinted in 2003. A lot has happened at Gogarth since 1990 and guidebook technology has moved on. So what's happening?

Apparantly Andy Newton who is compiling the next edition has been seen wandering the streets of Llanberis waiving a manuscript. I have it on good authority that moves are afoot within the Climbers Club to push publication forward to summer 2007. Early 2007 will also see unveiling of the anticipated Ground Up (website), North Wales Rock, the successor to the much loved Paul William's select volume, which contains a fairly hefty 'best of' Gogarth chapter. Ground Up have a Slate guide in preparation and possibly a North Wales Limestone. Will they possibly turn their gaze to Anglesey?

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Paz
28 Nov, 2006
I know people have said stories aren't newsworthy before, but this isn't even news, it's no news Do you really know nothing Mick? Did you bother to search your own forums and find out who the editor is? Email John Cox and ask him what the score is if you really want to know and you're not just out to cause a stink. If I were to take a guess I'd say the route checking hasn't been completed yet. This cannot restart until spring unless anyone is volunteering to climb Gogarth esoterica in winter. After the next season, the CC will have the 2007/8 winter to compile all the new information and complete the guidebook.
Tyler
28 Nov, 2006
Does it matter? I'm sick of people crying like babies about things they see on a free website and then bleating on about how "This is not news". It may not be in the strictest sense but it is topical, it is something that affects climbers and it is of interest to some. It says clearly in the (non) news article that Andy Newton so not sure what you are getting at here. Exactly, we're all guessing so if this brings some clarity to the discussion isn't that a good thing, or are you just out to cause a stink? Not entirely true. So how come you have the inside track on this then? Why not share if you know so much? Route checking has been going on for years and if you'd been writing this last year you'd have may well have written "the CC will have the 2006/7 winter to compile all the new information and complete the guidebook" so what information do you have that you are not sharing?
CraigMac1
28 Nov, 2006
What's with the link by Niall's name? Am I missing something obvious? Craig
Paz
28 Nov, 2006
I really don't understand how I wind you up so easily. I'm sick of people crying like babies too but this takes the piss! Nothing's happened. And that's news is it? Backed up by every modern journalists new favourite excuse for background research - quoting out of date websites! They need never phone anyone up to ask them anything in person ever again. Mick must be bored. I cunningly did not said that Coxy is the ed', but he definitely had something to do with it. I only know that because I read it on here. I'm flattered that you found my guesswork so convincing that you thought I had inside knowledge. I assure you I have none.
Tyler
28 Nov, 2006
You don't. It's just that for once there is a topic of interest to climbers on this site (as against some nefarious, hypothetical debate about ethics or grades without reference to routes) and the first and only response is someone whinging! OK, it's not news but it opens the debate, it has some information that I wasn't aware of. If JCM does have something of interest to say about this he's kept it close to his chest so I don't see what "searching other threads" would do. It must be true. I didn't. That much is obvious, empty vessels and all that.
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