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Tintern Car Parks

 bpmclimb 20 Jun 2020

Does anyone know if the car parks at Tintern are now open? Either the Abbey or the smaller one (Wireworks)?

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In reply to bpmclimb:

Five mile limited still in place; good luck. 

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 bpmclimb 20 Jun 2020
In reply to HighChilternRidge:

I live in Wales, less than 5 miles from those car parks, and the Welsh rules now allow driving to exercise if you stay local. So I reckon if I drive from St Arvans to Tintern, park there, walk across the footbridge into England and climb at Shorn Cliff, I'll be within the letter of the law .... no?

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 Rick Sewards 20 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

Hi Brian

Can't see a problem legally with what you're proposing, but no idea on the carparks I'm afraid, as I live in England (just!) and slightly more than 5 miles from Tintern so I can't check it!  Though a good alternative for locals is to cycle there, which is what I did on my one visit there this year - cuts down on the walk-in.  (I came in from the top though I think you could do it from Tintern by going out along the old railway and then dog-legging back on to the Shorn Cliff track).

Cheers

Rick

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 Mark Davies PK 20 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

Just park where the old hotel is, opposite the Abbey.

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In reply to bpmclimb:

Apologies, did not realise you were local. I would park at the wireworks. Enjoy. 

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 bpmclimb 21 Jun 2020

All:

Thanks for the replies. In case of interest, wireworks is still taped off, as is the Abbey car park. Didn't cycle  to Shorn Cliff as didn't want either to leave our bikes by the track or carry them up over the boulders. In the end we drove to Tintern, parked at the old hotel as Mark suggested, walked in, and had a really nice afternoon in the Fallen Block/Organ Grinder area

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 Mark Davies PK 21 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

Always ask me for I am the Oracle.

Post edited at 23:18
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 timjones 22 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

> I live in Wales, less than 5 miles from those car parks, and the Welsh rules now allow driving to exercise if you stay local. So I reckon if I drive from St Arvans to Tintern, park there, walk across the footbridge into England and climb at Shorn Cliff, I'll be within the letter of the law .... no?

That's a tricky one but I usually work on the theory that laws apply both ways.

Does that mean that I can excercise in Wales as long as I park at the border and don't walk any more than 5 miles into the land of song ;)

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 bpmclimb 22 Jun 2020
In reply to timjones:

> Does that mean that I can excercise in Wales as long as I park at the border and don't walk any more than 5 miles into the land of song ;)

Just drive to Wyndcliffe Quarry, and if accosted say geography isn't your strong point, and you thought it was in England. That's what a lot of climbers seem to be doing!

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 nniff 22 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

Arguably, it all depends on how you describe 'home'.  If 'home' is 'England' then Chepstow, St Arvans and Tintern are all comfortably within range.  I'm not saying it's a good argument, mind, but I have considered suitably evasive wording.....

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 timjones 22 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

Borders cause confusion at the best of times and as borders go the England/Wales border is particularly wiggly ;)

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 Donotello 22 Jun 2020
In reply to bpmclimb:

I drove from Bristol to tintern quarry gate and parked (along with about 6 other cars) and climbed at Shorn cliff this weekend. Packed, people from as far away as Kent and everywhere in between. No one is bothered by people spending 3 minutes in wales between England and England. 

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 bpmclimb 23 Jun 2020

>  No one is bothered by people spending 3 minutes in wales between England and England.

Probably not. They'd never know anyway - there was a brief flurry of police stopping cars between the M48 bridge and the Chepstow bridge back into England a few weeks back, but it didn't last.

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 bpmclimb 23 Jun 2020
In reply to timjones:

> Borders cause confusion at the best of times and as borders go the England/Wales border is particularly wiggly ;)

It does seem particularly odd not having the same set of rules for the whole of the Wye Valley. No wonder people are inclined to stretch the rules - or make up their own

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