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Shipton Tilman Christian name quote

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 lex 23 May 2018

Hi, does anyone k ow in which book Shipton writes of saying to Tilman they should call each other by their first names after a month in a tent. No, I don't think so was the reply.. 

Cheers, Lex

In reply to lex:

I think it was in his book 'Nanda Devi', or failing that (actually more likely), Tilman's book 'The Ascent of Nanda Devi'. I've got them downstairs and will look later.

 C Witter 23 May 2018
In reply to lex:

Perrin mentions it in his book; there might be a citation, knowing Perrin's rigorousness!

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 Bob Aitken 23 May 2018

It may not be the first time he told the story, but Shipton does recount it in his autobiography 'That Untravelled World' p85:  "As we had done in Africa, we continued to address each other as 'Tilman' and 'Shipton'; and when, after another seven months continuously together, I suggested it was time he called me 'Eric' he became acutely embarrassed, hung his head and muttered, 'It sounds so damned silly'".

It's a good story, but Jim Perrin suggests that it may have been one of Shipton's frequent jokes, just to illustrate how reticent Tilman was - on the basis that Tilman was unfailingly polite and wouldn't have responded in that way.   I guess we may never know.

 Jim Hamilton 23 May 2018
In reply to lex:

JRL Anderson in his biography on Tilman recounts the story, and says Shipton assured him it was not apocryphal (taking place "resting on a ledge in the high Himalaya after a particularly arduous traverse").

 Siward 23 May 2018
In reply to lex:

Not offhand no, but David Attenborough's memoirs:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=po4Es1kztr8C&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143...

mention the following exchange:

Shipton- 'Now that we know each other pretty well, so you think we might stop calling one another by our surnames.' To which Tilman replied, 'Are you suggesting that I should call you Eric? I'm afraid I couldn't do that. I should feel such a bloody fool.'

 Trangia 23 May 2018
In reply to Siward:

Wasn't on making the first Ascent of Nandi Devi that Tilman wrote "On reaching the summit, I believe we so forgot ourselves as to shake hands"?

 OMR 23 May 2018
In reply to Trangia:

I can't remember which hill it was, but I'm sure it was Noel Odell he was climbing with at that point, rather then Shipton. From the way it was written I assumed it was a joke, Tilman making a knowing joke about his own reputation for stuffiness - or rather reticence maybe.

 Trangia 23 May 2018
In reply to OMR:

I've just looked it up - I've got the book "The Ascent of Nanda Devi" 

It was Nanda Devi, and you are right, he was climbing with Odell

 


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