/ Simon Pegg an average actor?

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The Lemming 23 Mar 2020

An OK actor?

I'd say that he's one of the best contemporary actors that the UK has let loose onto the world's stage.

Who else could compete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfsCoFOqEQM

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bouldery bits 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Pegg is great. I'm a fan. 

Especially anything featuring Pegg and Frost.

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bouldery bits 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

> Who else could compete?

Redmayne

Cumberbatch

Hardy

Bouldery_bits

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jezb1 23 Mar 2020
In reply to bouldery bits:

David Tennant

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wintertree 23 Mar 2020
In reply to bouldery bits:

> ... Frost

I just can’t forgive him for “Hyperdrive”

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NorthernGrit 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Have you heard his accent in Star Trek?

I like him a lot. He's charismatic , reacts well and obviously has class comedic timing. But one of the best actors? Not sure I agree with that.

There's plenty that could compete - Paddy Considine has out acted in him in more than one film for a start.

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Phil4000 23 Mar 2020
In reply to wintertree:

I love hyperdrive! It’s hilarious, I regularly rewatch it on you tube. I can however see why it may not be everyone’s favourite. 

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ena sharples 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Think Tim Spall and Eddie Marsan are both better actors, by some margin.

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DenzelLN 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Disagree, ive never been a fan tbh.

Anthony Hopkins

Tom Hardy

Christian Bale

Cillian Murphy

Plus quite a few more by my reckoning.

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deepsoup 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

"Moon" is on telly tonight.  (9pm 'Sony Movies Channel' on Freeview)

Sam Rockwell is pretty good in that.  (He basically has the entire film to himself.)  It's a performance in a science-fiction film that may even eclipse Simon Pegg's portrayal of Scottie.

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wilkie14c 23 Mar 2020
In reply to deepsoup:

ah, great film!

Pegg isn’t a great actor but his skill in my eyes is relatability, he comes across as a normal bloke rather than an actor 

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DaveHK 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

He's one of those actors whose stuff I actively avoid. Never seen him in anything I thought was good or in which I thought he gave a good performance.

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DaveHK 23 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

> Who else could compete?

Really?

There's a cast of thousands, you've already been given a few.

I'll chuck in Paddy Considine, David Morrissey, Christopher Ecclestone, Robert Carlyle, Hugh Laurie, Colin Firth, Jude Law, Gary Oldman, James McAvoy, Ralph Fiennes, Kenneth Brannagh,  Clive Owen...

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DaveHK 23 Mar 2020
In reply to ena sharples:

> Think Tim Spall and Eddie Marsan are both better actors, by some margin.

Two of the best right there. The interplay between them in Pierrepoint made the film.

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Dave Garnett 23 Mar 2020
In reply to NorthernGrit:

> I like him a lot. He's charismatic , reacts well and obviously has class comedic timing. But one of the best actors? Not sure I agree with that.

I'd agree, but I also think he's great at attracting outstanding casts of top class actors who like working with him.  Look at the casts of the Cornetto trilogy (including the brilliant Paddy Considine and Eddie Marsan).

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nufkin 24 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

I'd assumed, before actually watching the clip, that you were linking to his topical mini-scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3hurnbnRi0

Dunno if he's got quite the range of some of the actors already mentioned previously, but I generally enjoy his presence in things

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TheDrunkenBakers 24 Mar 2020
In reply to DaveHK:

> Really?

> There's a cast of thousands, you've already been given a few.

> I'll chuck in Paddy Considine, David Morrissey, Christopher Ecclestone, Robert Carlyle, Hugh Laurie, Colin Firth, Jude Law, Gary Oldman, James McAvoy, Ralph Fiennes, Kenneth Brannagh,  Clive Owen...

Jim Broadbent, Daniel Day Lewis...

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DaveHK 24 Mar 2020
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

> Jim Broadbent, Daniel Day Lewis...

I only left DDL out because he's retired! 

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Blue Straggler 24 Mar 2020
In reply to DaveHK:

> I only left DDL out because he's retired! 

He will be back! 

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Tom V 24 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

It took me a long time into The Wire to realise that I was watching two outstanding English actors in Dominic West and Idris Elba, Of course there is more to acting than being able to do various accents but the two characters they played made the show, for me. I've gone off Elba a bit recently, though, probably something to do with TV ads.

I didn't like Jack O' Connell at first in  a prison film but that might be a measure of just how much his character got under my skin. OK with him now, even as a cowboy.

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Blue Straggler 24 Mar 2020
In reply to Tom V:

I have no issue with Jack O'Connell but the constant attempts to really make a star out of him, are a bit embarrassing. To paraphrase Regina in Mean Girls, "stop trying to make Jack HAPPEN! Jack's NOT going to HAPPEN!"

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Blue Straggler 24 Mar 2020
In reply to ena sharples:

> Think Tim Spall and Eddie Marsan are both better actors, by some margin.

Have you noticed that if Eddie Marsan pops up in a big film, there is an approximately 80% chance that his character is going to meet a nasty death? By the way I really rate him too. 

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Stuart William 24 Mar 2020
In reply to Tom V:

I don’t think I ever realised Elba was British while he was in the wire. It was only when he started appearing in sky ads that I got really confused as to why he was doing a weird English accent. 

In a similar vein, and I don’t know if it’s true or not, but allegedly the folks who interviewed Hugh Laurie for House didn’t initially believe him afterwards when he switched back to his actual voice and let on that he was English. 

As you say, there’s more to an actor than accents but I still find it hugely impressive. 

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ena sharples 24 Mar 2020
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Yes, he does seem to specialise in losers and dodgy types.

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The Lemming 24 Mar 2020
In reply to Stuart William:

> In a similar vein, and I don’t know if it’s true or not, but allegedly the folks who interviewed Hugh Laurie for House didn’t initially believe him afterwards when he switched back to his actual voice and let on that he was English.

True story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyJ9p3zxnWA

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Stuart William 24 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Ah thanks, love that!

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DubyaJamesDubya 25 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Any number could 'compete' but why does it matter, he's perfectly good in everything I've seen him in (not 100% sure about Scotty) Would he be a great Hamlet? I don't know.

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wbo2 25 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming: I find him desperately annoying and unlikeable so I can't judge accurately

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deepsoup 25 Mar 2020
In reply to Stuart William:

> In a similar vein, and I don’t know if it’s true or not, but allegedly the folks who interviewed Hugh Laurie for House didn’t initially believe him afterwards when he switched back to his actual voice and let on that he was English. 

On the flip side of that we've all heard American actors doing English accents with varying degrees of Dick Van Dyke, but James Marsters nailed it.  (He played the English vampire Spike in god knows how many series of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and the 'Angel' spin-off.)  I was really surprise when I heard him in an interview speaking with his own accent.

Jodie Comer though, in Killing Eve, she's amazing!
Example - the scene in the second series where she's working with Eve as a spy, deciding what her cover is going to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a6VLh9oz3E

Killing Eve is all still up on the BBC iplayer btw, well worth a watch for anyone who didn't see it.

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Stuart William 25 Mar 2020
In reply to deepsoup:

Ah, yeah never realised spike was not English. 

I’ve seen a few recommendations for killing eve, thanks for the reminder. One more for the lockdown list. 

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Blue Straggler 25 Mar 2020
In reply to deepsoup:

> On the flip side of that we've all heard American actors doing English accents with varying degrees of Dick Van Dyke, but James Marsters nailed it. 

Michelle Williams did "upper middle class Estuary English" pretty well in Me Without You, a feat made more impressive when you learn she was flying over to England on weekends to shoot that film, whilst shooting Dawson's Creek in the USA on weekdays. 

Her "working class Londoner" in Incendiary was less convincing but not cringeworthy. 

Likewise, Tatiana Maslany's "British" in Orphan Black was nowhere near 100% but considering that she plays multiple characters, all distinct from each other and all with different accents and origins, it's a pretty underrated performance (I know she got a Golden Globe in at least one year, but her name isn't as well known as it deserves to be)

 

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Dave Garnett 25 Mar 2020
In reply to deepsoup:

> On the flip side of that we've all heard American actors doing English accents with varying degrees of Dick Van Dyke, but James Marsters nailed it. 

Nominative determinism.  Any American pronouncing 'masters' with an 'r' in it is bound to end up with an English accent!

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nufkin 25 Mar 2020
In reply to deepsoup:

>  On the flip side of that we've all heard American actors doing English accents with varying degrees of Dick Van Dyke

Lake Bell did a pretty good job in whatever the name of the film was that she was in with Simon Pegg

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ThunderCat 25 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

Afraid not. He seems to play the same character in everything (ie himself) . Bit like Martin Freeman. 

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The Lemming 25 Mar 2020
In reply to ThunderCat:

> Afraid not. He seems to play the same character in everything (ie himself) . Bit like Martin Freeman. 


Worked for some Scotch bloke playing a Russian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWjJlErBPX4

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deepsoup 25 Mar 2020
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I haven't seen either of those, but maybe there are more American actors getting it right than I thought.  If they do get it right it would be easy to just never realise they're American.

Oh also in Killing Eve - you would never guess that Fiona Shaw (who plays Carolyn Martens) isn't English if you didn't know.  She's from Cork and has a distinct Irish accent normally.

I wonder how good Villanelle's accent is in all the other languages she speaks - when she speaks Russian would a Russian be convinced?  I know we have a few French speakers on here, how good was her French?

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ThunderCat 25 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

> Worked for some Scotch bloke playing a Russian.

I daresay it's worked for many actors

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Le Sapeur 25 Mar 2020
In reply to The Lemming:

I've met Simon Pegg and can say he is not a very nice man. 

However, he can act.

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