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Better maps than the DAV Alpenverein?

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 FockeWulf 29 Mar 2022

Are there better maps for Germany than the DAV Alpenverien ones?

I don't like how they are more like illustrations, and altitude lines disappear on steep rocky terrain and somewhat difficult to read the steepness as well as an UK OS Map.

Thanks

 jimtitt 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

Online (you can save the maps) for Bavaria ( probably other lander as well) you go to bayern.portal/bayern atlas. From the choice of maps (the round symbols bottom left) find the one with contours. These aren't shown on steep ground for obvious reasons BUT if you touch on a point you get the coordinates and the altitude.

OP FockeWulf 29 Mar 2022
In reply to jimtitt:

I have been using BayernAtlas online already, and it's basically the same as DAV Alpenveien. 

I didn't know you could click to get the altitude - thanks for the tip!

However, if I was to buy a map to take out, are there any more detailed options? 

Thanks. 

cb294 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

The main alternative is Kompass, but I don't like them, really. I am hardcore tribe DAV.

CB

 jimtitt 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

No idea about paper maps, to navigate I use Locus maps where the contours are shown anyway though a quick look at the Zugspitze tells me it's kinda mentally confusing in real detail!

OP FockeWulf 29 Mar 2022
In reply to jimtitt:

Thank you.

Also does anyone have a guide to the red and white trail markings (in Germany)

They look like Austrian flags, but some are circles/round.

Thanks 

 jimtitt 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

They are local to whichever organisation marked them. Have you looked at the Bayerisch Vermessungsampt 1:25000 walking map series, they might have more info on them?

 Toerag 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

> Thank you.

> Also does anyone have a guide to the red and white trail markings (in Germany)

> They look like Austrian flags, but some are circles/round.

This might be useful?  https://www.thetravelersbuddy.com/2020/09/30/hiking-signs-alps/   To be honest with you, it doesn't really matter, as long as there's paint blobs you're fine.  You'll often find red or black dots too.  Are you living in the area or planning to visit? Oh, DAV maps are better than Kompass ones as well.  I don't care about contours that much, as if there's not a path it's almost certainly steep choss you don't want to be on anyway - the Alps aren't like UK hills insomuch that people generally only follow paths.  Komoot is pretty useful by the way, I started using it in the Bavarian Alps last year.

 Carless 29 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

If you're anywhere near Switzerland it might be covered by https://map.geo.admin.ch/ which is excellent: loads of overlay choice, freely printable at any scale

eg. ski-tour routes round Zermatt

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=en&topic=schneesport&bgLayer=voidLay...

 tjekel 29 Mar 2022
In reply to cb294:

agree, kompass is shit in 2D format. 

 McHeath 29 Mar 2022
In reply to cb294:

I hate Kompass maps. I love the Swiss ones, but the makers unfortunately don't consider Bavaria as being part of Switzerland.

(Joke: Q: How will Bavaria be defined in 2050? A: A small warlike province in the centre of China) 

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OP FockeWulf 30 Mar 2022

Just out of interest, are there any similar online maps for Mont Blanc? 

 Carless 30 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

Mont Blanc and surrounding area included in fact lots of areas outside CH included - zoom out to see how far it goes

Here's the snowsport overlay for Mont Blanc

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=en&topic=schneesport&bgLayer=voidLay...

 Carless 30 Mar 2022
In reply to FockeWulf:

Mess about with the overlays using Change topic

Here's the Geocatalog overlay

and you can print to pdf whatever bit and scale you like

It even prints with a qr code that will take you to exactly what you chose

It's amazing it's all free

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=en&topic=ech&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pi...


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