In reply to droites:
Old Five Ten Camp 4, UK 9,5
New Camp 4 UK 9 (horrible fit though, also in UK 9,5 still narrow for my wide feet).
Five Ten Guide Tennies UK 9 (they were great until they changed shape of the toe box). But still useably as reference.
So now it is mainly La Sportiva TX 3 and 4 UK 8,5. Great shoes.
Street shoes, oh well. I don’t want to talk bout it, a disaster.
No socks in TC pro's
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