In reply to brianjcooper:
I realised the super comfy Edelrid Orion sport harness i bought is not ideal for trad, because the gear loops were too far back.
With some harnesses, this is not necessarily down to the design, it can also be due to the size that best fits you, as going up a size will bring them closer to the front. But with the Orion, this only narrowed the gap from 40cm to 38cm.
I went on a mission with a tape measure to find the harness that brought them closest to the front, although also curious if too near the front could be an issue. Only wearing in use would be conclusive.
I tried loads.
When i bought the Orion, the Wild country Synchro was my 2nd choice for comfort, + only cos i noted that part of the seam seemed a bit potentially chaffy.
So i tried it again...
DBFGL = distance between front gear loops.
After trying plenty, + measuring the dbfgl on a couple of sizes of each, i noticed the DMM Renegade 2 was the winner.. if this was a good criteria to decide on.
Dmm Renegade 2 DBFGL = 23 cm on me in a medium.
2nd place was WC Synchro... DBFGL = 33cm in a medium/large for me.
I was torn between the 2, especially with the Synchros overlapping gear loop, but went for the Renny.
Having used it for sport now, i'd say the gear loops are too close to the front for sport !
Haven't tried the Renny with trad yet, hopefully will be testing it this Sunday.
So i'm going to buy the Synchro soon too, see if that works for everything, sport + trad, + it's super comfy.
The Renny is about 50g lighter though!
Both have the advantage of making it possible to centralise the belay loop, regardless of your waiste size... Dmm with floating belt, WC with 2 buckles on belt, 1 each side of belay loop.
The Orion is probably ok for sport.
Might have a harness or 2 for sale soon.
Post edited at 22:06