In reply to Alex1:
yep, even with Tobys revised maths, I agree that solutions were a milestone.
However at the time, and with where I lived at the time, it felt there were more budget options alongside them. It felt there were brands trying to cater to different pricepoints. I guess I'm starting to feel that all the brands are trying to stick to more similar pricepoints now, maybe boreal being one of the cheaper ones?
I also do recognise that I'm not in as many climbing shops as I used to be and I'm probably just being a curmudgeon.
I would also say that when solutions came out they were truly innovative and sometimes that helps justify a price whereas the shoes reviewed appear more derivative which for me makes it harder to justify.