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Illegal raptor persecution continues in Angus glens

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Douglas Griffin 19 Dec 2013
In the last hour Police Scotland has announced that a golden eagle which was found dead in the Angus Glens had been poisoned.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Environment/Wildlife-Habitats/paw-scotlan...
http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news/2013/december/203117/

According to the RSPB that makes 4 golden eagles, 1 red kite & 7 buzzards illegally poisoned in under 6 years on grouse moors in the Angus glens - and that's just the ones we know about. No convictions have resulted.
https://twitter.com/rspbbirders/status/413712512576913408
 kinley2 19 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

It's really quite depressing that I'm not surprised.
 upordown 19 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

That's really sad news. It's beyond my understanding.

On a cheerier note, I've just been looking at some of the pics on your website. You have some glorious shots on there!
Douglas Griffin 19 Dec 2013
In reply to upordown:

Thank you.
 Mountain Llama 19 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin: very depressing for such an iconic bird

Douglas Griffin 19 Dec 2013
A further post by RSPB:

https://twitter.com/RSPBbirders/status/413717050125983744
"Only a small number of eagles are sat tagged, tags assist in finding them when dead, you have to wonder what is happening to the others.."

 Andy Nisbet 19 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

I found a buzzard with a wing shot off in Glen Esk a few years ago. I reported it to the RSPB, and they reported it to the police, but no proof I guess.
Douglas Griffin 19 Dec 2013
In reply to Andy Nisbet:

Statement by the Scottish Gamekeepers' Association:
http://www.scottishgamekeepers.co.uk/content/sga-comment-eagle-poisoning-an...

“We only heard of this incident on the night time news. Obviously, given the significant progress made in recent times, news of the poisoning of this eagle is terrible. “We are not aware who is responsible for this and would encourage anyone who may know anything to pass on any information to the Police. “We would like to reiterate that the SGA will not condone the poisoning of birds of prey. If any SGA member is convicted of such a crime, they are removed from our organisation. “We will not allow the actions of a minority to tarnish the reputations of the vast majority of sporting estates who manage responsibly.”
Douglas Griffin 19 Dec 2013
Meanwhile, The Countryside Alliance chooses today to publish this:

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-shooting/the-rspbs-continu...
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Bastards.

jcm
Slugain Howff 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

It's bandit country over on that side of the hill.

You'll remember this horrific story where an eagle trapped around Glen Esk miraculously "flew"overnight following the road before coming to rest in a lay-by in Deeside.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19698139



jjmacewan 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Just a couple of days ago this was also reported:

http://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/poisoned-buzzard-...

Poisoned buzzard found on Sheriffmuir.

Found in September but police only now appealing for information.
Douglas Griffin 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Slugain Howff:

There's something especially appalling about that one.

Article here re. the poisoned bird in the OP: http://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/the-life-and-deat...
 Martin W 20 Dec 2013
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

> Bastards.

Hypocritical bastards.

Stuff "tarnishing reputations": a few estate managers and owners being fined and/or banged up for permitting these sorts of things to happen would focus their minds rather more rapidly, I can't help feeling.
 j0ntyg 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

> Statement by the Scottish Gamekeepers' Association:


>> The SGA and their English equivalent often use the fact that very few of their gamekeepers have been prosecuted and that the ones who have were rogue operators. Of course few have been found guilty, they work in such remote areas that we can't expect the police to patrol those moors.
Would the word "devious" be correct?




In reply to Douglas Griffin:

We've reported both the Sheriffmuir buzzard and the Angus eagle on UKH today on the basis that you can't have too much coverage of this sort of thing: http://www.ukhillwalking.com/news/item.php?id=68599

Hopefully someone's got useful information
Douglas Griffin 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Dan Bailey - UKHillwalking.com:

Thanks, Dan.

This is worth a read:
http://wildlifedetective.wordpress.com/
Rigid Raider 20 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin:

We used to have an elderly former gamekeeper turned occasional poacher living in our street; he was a colourful character and certainly a mine of information and knowledge on country lore, game and traps and guns. This kind of person still exists and is often employed by big estates to protect their investment so I'm sure a bird as big and obvious - and predictable - as a golden eagle or any other bird of prey is, er, easy prey for them. Nothing will change as long as there is such big money to be made from huntin' shootin' and fishin' and these sports are monopolised by a class of people who consider themselves above the common law.

In reply to Douglas Griffin:

Massive fines and jail for the people with blood on their hands is what's needed. Compulsory forfeit of their land for those assisting i.e. landowners.

Countryside Alliance - don't get me started on those ^$"$()(* as I would like a pleasant afternoon.
 kinley2 20 Dec 2013
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Countryside Alliance and SGA remind me a lot of the publicity machine for Big Tobacco in the 60's and 70's - claiming the epidemiological data linking tobacco and cancer was just a tissue of deception promulgated by anti-tobacco pressure groups.

Bunch of to***rs.
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

> Countryside Alliance - don't get me started on those ^$"$()(* as I would like a pleasant afternoon.

Just remove the letters o, r, y, i, d and e from "Countryside Alliance" to get a much more appropriate name for them.

 Alan Taylor 26 Dec 2013
In reply to Douglas Griffin: Scum

Removed User 27 Dec 2013
In reply to Alan Taylor: Don't forget that the environment secretary Owen Paterson has form in this sort of thing, he refused to ban the most popular poison used to kill raptors in the same way he wants badgers shot but considers it impractical to shoot foxes not to mention being a climate change denier.

 Cuthbert 27 Dec 2013
In reply to Removed User:

And who said land ownership, Westminster, title, privilege went hand in hand?

Unfortunately this area is not on Who Owns Scotland.

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