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MG 06 Jun 2019

We now have Tory party potential leaders essentially proposing a coup via proroguing Parliament. 

Are you brexiteers still on board with this?

How about when HoP "accidentally" catches fire? 

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pasbury 06 Jun 2019
In reply to MG:

there does seem to be a democratic deficit in the way some of these candidates speak. It’s only Raab (scary guy) who hasn’t ruled it out.

To get Brexit through parliament is impossible without a general election and hopefully not even then. Everyone knows that the democratic mandate from the referendum is now out of date and probably invalid. May’s deal is dead, the referendum result should also be dead. We’ve had enough of this bullshit. General election please.

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wercat 08 Jun 2019
In reply to pasbury:

I think that I would have to put on a yellow vest if Parliamentary Democracy was sacrificed for getting Brexit through. Where did this fascistic idea of rule by plebiscite come from?  The Freikorps, The communists or the national socialists?

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Robert Durran 08 Jun 2019
In reply to MG:

> How about when HoP "accidentally" catches fire? 

I actually don't think this is too far fetched. If they try to force through a no deal Brexit by any means against the will of parliament (and the people), there will almost certainly be civil unrest. Perhaps quite rightly so.

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pec 08 Jun 2019
In reply to Robert Durran:

> I actually don't think this is too far fetched. If they try to force through a no deal Brexit by any means against the will of parliament (and the people), there will almost certainly be civil unrest. Perhaps quite rightly so.


Now when I suggested there might be civil unrest if we didn't leave the EU the great and good of UKC rounded on me for making threats (which was of course absolute nonsense, it was just an observation in very moderate language) but it seems it's ok for militant remainers to make much more overt threats with total impunity.

Yet more remain hypocrisy like the "we triggered article 50 too quickly / its been too long since the referendum so the mandate has expired" hypocrisy regulaly trotted out.

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MonkeyPuzzle 08 Jun 2019
In reply to MG:

Ian Dunt on the money again:  https://politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/06/07/week-in-review-the-tory-party-is-fast-losing-its-mind

"And round and round we go, on a logic loop. It's like watching your own brain swirl down a drain."

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Robert Durran 08 Jun 2019
In reply to pec:

> Now when I suggested there might be civil unrest if we didn't leave the EU the great and good of UKC rounded on me for making threats.

I can also understand why leavers might threaten civil unrest if we remain. Many of them clearly still seriously believe in the whole deluded project.

Either way, the country has been seriously damaged by the Brexit tragedy.

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neilh 08 Jun 2019
In reply to MG:

It is down to a lack of a constitution that this is being suggested. 

It is now a bigger time bomb than the Brexit vote itself. 

jethro kiernan 08 Jun 2019
In reply to MG:

If Parliament is the vehicle of democracy in the UK then it’s a rolls Royce silver phantom, designed for the elite and a bygone age and long past its sell by date and should be in a museum as it isn’t up to the task of carrying the weight of expectation that people have and with no modern safety features like a constitution it’s likely to end up as a proper car crash. 

Regardless of what happens with brexit it will break parliament and democracy in the UK if the two parties don’t table real democratic reform.

unfortunately both parties are too invested in the two party system to make changes, thus increasing the chance of politics imploding.

MG 09 Jun 2019
In reply to pec:

> Now when I suggested there might be civil unrest if we didn't leave the EU the great and good of UKC rounded on me for making threats (which was of course absolute nonsense, it was just an observation in very moderate language) but it seems it's ok for militant remainers to make much more overt threats with total impunity.

I was referring to the Reichtag fire. Interesting that this clearly means nothing to you. 

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