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Whatever ones thoughts about MT I doubt that many could have failed to be impressed by the manner in which yesterday's funeral was conducted. We do, in this country I believe, have a knack for conducting such ceremonies with an expertise that is the envy of many other countries.
In particular I was in awe of the bearer party led by the brothers Mott, finer military specimens would be hard to find anywhere. The whole bearer party conducted themselves magnificently.
In particular I was in awe of the bearer party led by the brothers Mott, finer military specimens would be hard to find anywhere. The whole bearer party conducted themselves magnificently.
Could you not have posted this in one of the other 10 threads?
In reply to Milesy:
> Could you not have posted this in one of the other 10 threads?
I wanted to make a particular point, otherwise I suppose so.In reply to mypyrex:
England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
Vive la republique.
England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
Vive la republique.
In reply to mypyrex:
Or maybe it's just yourselves you're kidding and in reality no one else actually cares that much about how well such things are conducted. Other than of course the people who were waiting to see some sort of conflagration from the protesters.
> Whatever ones thoughts about MT I doubt that many could have failed to be impressed by the manner in which yesterday's funeral was conducted. We do, in this country I believe, have a knack for conducting such ceremonies with an expertise that is the envy of many other countries.
Or maybe it's just yourselves you're kidding and in reality no one else actually cares that much about how well such things are conducted. Other than of course the people who were waiting to see some sort of conflagration from the protesters.
In reply to mypyrex:
Not really my bag.
Pomp, formality, religiosity, etc makes me feel queezy. It's all about pretending things aren't as they really are. But yes, I suppose we are experts at that.
Not really my bag.
Pomp, formality, religiosity, etc makes me feel queezy. It's all about pretending things aren't as they really are. But yes, I suppose we are experts at that.
In reply to Frank4short: We used to quite dignified but post Diana we've gone quite soppy. Any excuse to get the costumes out.
In reply to Papillon: I always thought Wooten Basset (now royal) did a grand job in dignified behaviour.
They fly them home somehwere else now I believe, not sure where
They fly them home somehwere else now I believe, not sure where
In reply to Craig Mc:
Well, you can stuff your republic(and fat Salmond) up yer sporran.
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> England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
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> Vive la republique.
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> England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
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> Vive la republique.
Well, you can stuff your republic(and fat Salmond) up yer sporran.
In reply to mypyrex:
Nae room for wee Eck up there. Could maybe squeeze in Ruth Davidson but I doubt she would be keen.
Nae room for wee Eck up there. Could maybe squeeze in Ruth Davidson but I doubt she would be keen.
In reply to Craig Mc:
Sadly there are no plans for a Scottish republic. We'd still be lumbered with the Royals whatever way the vote goes.
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> England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
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> Vive la republique.
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> England does that stuff really well I admit. Another reason to vote yes next autumn.
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> Vive la republique.
Sadly there are no plans for a Scottish republic. We'd still be lumbered with the Royals whatever way the vote goes.
In reply to tony:
All politics, mate. We can't change play unless we're in the game.
And it's a long game.
All politics, mate. We can't change play unless we're in the game.
And it's a long game.
In reply to mypyrex:
In the words of a friend of mine, say what you like about the old witch, but she chose some good music.
In the words of a friend of mine, say what you like about the old witch, but she chose some good music.
In reply to Bjartur í Sumarhús:
Into Brize Norton, just outside Oxford, so not so far away. This used to be the original point of repatriation, but they switched to Wootton Bassett for a few years while they did some repairs, and now they went back.
> They fly them home somehwere else now I believe, not sure where
Into Brize Norton, just outside Oxford, so not so far away. This used to be the original point of repatriation, but they switched to Wootton Bassett for a few years while they did some repairs, and now they went back.
In reply to mypyrex: I thought the funeral was conducted in a fair, unbiased manner.
In reply to mypyrex:
Apart from the clapping.
Pre Diana, clapping just "wasn't done" at a funeral. It's something which seems to have crept in over the last few decades. I remember both the late King's and Churchill's funerals when the crowd stood in respectful silence as the cortege passed.
Apart from the clapping.
Pre Diana, clapping just "wasn't done" at a funeral. It's something which seems to have crept in over the last few decades. I remember both the late King's and Churchill's funerals when the crowd stood in respectful silence as the cortege passed.
In reply to Trangia: Agreed. As I said, I think the heros were the bearer party; esp the Mott brothers. If they are the British Army, God help the enemy
In reply to mypyrex: It was an obscene waste of money and national credibility on somebody that didn't deserve it. Simply embarrassing.
In reply to alastairmac: You obviously have no national pride or feeling for somebody who restored Great Britain's reputation in the world and broke econimic stranglehold that the unions and the likes of Scargill had on the country.
Let us explode once and for all the falsehood that Mrs Thatcher was responsible for closing all of the pits.
The largest number of closures by far, 93 pits, were closed under Harold Wilson in the 60s. The next highest closure period took place under Jim Callaghan in the 70s.
Mrs Thatcher didn't take office until 1979 when 22 pits closed during her tenure in the 80s. Labour's closures far exceeded those of Mrs Thatcher.
Furthermore, the "Milk Snatch" was initiated under a Labour government. The Tories merely extended it.
Let us explode once and for all the falsehood that Mrs Thatcher was responsible for closing all of the pits.
The largest number of closures by far, 93 pits, were closed under Harold Wilson in the 60s. The next highest closure period took place under Jim Callaghan in the 70s.
Mrs Thatcher didn't take office until 1979 when 22 pits closed during her tenure in the 80s. Labour's closures far exceeded those of Mrs Thatcher.
Furthermore, the "Milk Snatch" was initiated under a Labour government. The Tories merely extended it.
In reply to mypyrex:
who cares, she was ginger and affected the condescending tones of a toff, thick as mince & loved and was loved by dictators & torturers. didn't even get the trains to run on time.
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who cares, she was ginger and affected the condescending tones of a toff, thick as mince & loved and was loved by dictators & torturers. didn't even get the trains to run on time.
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In reply to mypyrex:
Why start another thread? I'm getting a bit bored now of all this thatcher stuff. She's dead so lets all just move along
didn't watch her funeral but i can Imagine it was a typical over the top wank fest.
Why start another thread? I'm getting a bit bored now of all this thatcher stuff. She's dead so lets all just move along
didn't watch her funeral but i can Imagine it was a typical over the top wank fest.
In reply to doz generale:
The BBC didn't show all the wanking.
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> didn't watch her funeral but i can Imagine it was a typical over the top wank fest.
The BBC didn't show all the wanking.
In reply to mypyrex: I was thinking more of her support for Apartheid, Pinochet and coup attempts by her son in Africa. Makes you proud eh! Move on.
In reply to alastairmac:
IIRC she was opposed to sanctions against South Africa and not the dismantling of apartheid. Pinochet was no worse than many other dictators throughout the world. Mark Thatcher is an adult and, as such, old enough to be held responsible for his own actions. As it happens I don't particularly like him.
> (In reply to mypyrex) I was thinking more of her support for Apartheid, Pinochet and coup attempts by her son in Africa. Makes you proud eh! Move on.
IIRC she was opposed to sanctions against South Africa and not the dismantling of apartheid. Pinochet was no worse than many other dictators throughout the world. Mark Thatcher is an adult and, as such, old enough to be held responsible for his own actions. As it happens I don't particularly like him.
In reply to Trangia:
Doesn't stop his comment being considered correct by very many.
And although Britain does ceremonial events well, are we really any better than other countries ? July 14th on French TV looks pretty impressive (if you like that sort of thing)
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> You cretin. This thread is simply about whether or not it was a good funeral, that's all. Not an anylsis as to whether or not it was justified. There are plenty of other threads for you to air such views.
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> You cretin. This thread is simply about whether or not it was a good funeral, that's all. Not an anylsis as to whether or not it was justified. There are plenty of other threads for you to air such views.
Doesn't stop his comment being considered correct by very many.
And although Britain does ceremonial events well, are we really any better than other countries ? July 14th on French TV looks pretty impressive (if you like that sort of thing)
In reply to mypyrex:
Sorry, I failed didn't look at much though, just the 10 seconds or so on French telly news.
Are you suggesting that this is one of Britain's strong points? Hard to see how it could be commercialised, at 10 million pounds a shot the price could be a sticking point.
> I doubt that many could have failed to be impressed by the manner in which yesterday's funeral was conducted... etc.
Sorry, I failed didn't look at much though, just the 10 seconds or so on French telly news.
Are you suggesting that this is one of Britain's strong points? Hard to see how it could be commercialised, at 10 million pounds a shot the price could be a sticking point.
In reply to Doug:
Perfectly valid comments in the right forum. But hey ho the OP seems content to expand this thread to include countering them here, so I'll withdraw from the discussion.
Perfectly valid comments in the right forum. But hey ho the OP seems content to expand this thread to include countering them here, so I'll withdraw from the discussion.
In reply to mypyrex:
She didn't do much for our spellin though, did she?
> who restored Great Britain's reputation in the world and broke econimic stranglehold.... etc etc.
She didn't do much for our spellin though, did she?
In reply to Jon Stewart:
Not even on BBC3?
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In reply to Submit to Gravity:
An honour guard of frantically tugging, tossing troopers would have certainly livened up the proceedings.
An honour guard of frantically tugging, tossing troopers would have certainly livened up the proceedings.
In reply to alastairmac:
Much more polite than I was to you. My appologies
Much more polite than I was to you. My appologies
In reply to Bruce Hooker: typical loathsome liberal. The name Bruce reminds me of some gay right activist in America.
In reply to Oliiver:
Isn't it about time that you moved on and let the memory of him go?
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>> The name Bruce reminds me of some gay right activist in America.
Isn't it about time that you moved on and let the memory of him go?
In reply to Trangia: No bother
In reply to Doug:
I think the Vatican's got it cracked; better costumes, both the soldiers and the chaps in dresses.
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I think the Vatican's got it cracked; better costumes, both the soldiers and the chaps in dresses.
In reply to Bruce Hooker:
plus profit. That said could go for "You cant take it with you so do the next best thing".
Might get a few takers. Perhaps throw in x years of the C of E saying prayers for the dead as well.
> Hard to see how it could be commercialised, at 10 million pounds a shot the price could be a sticking point.
plus profit. That said could go for "You cant take it with you so do the next best thing".
Might get a few takers. Perhaps throw in x years of the C of E saying prayers for the dead as well.
In reply to Bruce Hooker:
True for funerals, but I think the general royal pomp stuff is commercalised pretty well, the life guards etc are a classic london tourist thing. I think that the ceremonial staff in other rump monarchies I've wandered past have looked a bit weak in comparison - although I agree the french do a fine job.
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>> Are you suggesting that this is one of Britain's strong points? Hard to see how it could be commercialised, at 10 million pounds a shot the price could be a sticking point.
True for funerals, but I think the general royal pomp stuff is commercalised pretty well, the life guards etc are a classic london tourist thing. I think that the ceremonial staff in other rump monarchies I've wandered past have looked a bit weak in comparison - although I agree the french do a fine job.
In reply to Dr.S at work:
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> although I agree the french do a fine job.
In reply to Postmanpat:
I don't know, I find the Swiss Guard abit Disney, these things need a good dollop of camp, but I think they cross the line.
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> I think the Vatican's got it cracked; better costumes, both the soldiers and the chaps in dresses.
I don't know, I find the Swiss Guard abit Disney, these things need a good dollop of camp, but I think they cross the line.
In reply to mypyrex: I agree with everything you have said.
In reply to Dauphin:
> who cares, she was ginger and affected the condescending tones of a toff, thick as mince .....
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Don't know how you like your mince but for a woman to get into Oxford in the 1940's in a traditionally male dominated subject like chemistry doesn't seem very thick to me. Or do you define thick as anyone who disagrees with your politics? If you judge the calibre of a person by the colour of their hair perhaps you.>
In reply to Dr.S at work:
I don't know how to break this to you but the French did away with their monarchy a few years ago, rather radically... There's still the "Guardes Républicaines" who look smart in their polished breast plates riding along but otherwise it's all a bit limited, no "mangeurs de boeuf" or anything of the sort
> although I agree the french do a fine job.
I don't know how to break this to you but the French did away with their monarchy a few years ago, rather radically... There's still the "Guardes Républicaines" who look smart in their polished breast plates riding along but otherwise it's all a bit limited, no "mangeurs de boeuf" or anything of the sort
In reply to The New NickB:
Can't beet the greeks for camp
http://mrjam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c00c753ef0148c80197f0970c-pi
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Can't beet the greeks for camp
http://mrjam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c00c753ef0148c80197f0970c-pi
In reply to mypyrex:
It was moving and dignified and worthy of a woman who right or wrong, had a massive influence on this forum.
Speaking of which, when CJD dies we have a funeral in place. We intend to fling her using a trebuchet into the North Sea at Mablethorpe (flowers by Hannah S, eulogy by Only a Hill) while the Dogging Choir of Great Britain sings "Only a Prawn in Whitby".
We have arranged for a fly past from the Model Aeroplane Club of Ingoldmells (junior section, non military ) and a beer and holistic wholemeal bunfest at the Spit and Bumhole. Attendees will be invited to fall silent and engage in a mass pondering while Dave H takes the photos.
It was moving and dignified and worthy of a woman who right or wrong, had a massive influence on this forum.
Speaking of which, when CJD dies we have a funeral in place. We intend to fling her using a trebuchet into the North Sea at Mablethorpe (flowers by Hannah S, eulogy by Only a Hill) while the Dogging Choir of Great Britain sings "Only a Prawn in Whitby".
We have arranged for a fly past from the Model Aeroplane Club of Ingoldmells (junior section, non military ) and a beer and holistic wholemeal bunfest at the Spit and Bumhole. Attendees will be invited to fall silent and engage in a mass pondering while Dave H takes the photos.
In reply to mypyrex:
I would never knowingly watch something with that wretch in it,in fact when i see so much as a picture of that community destroying parasite who brought untold misery to millions of people(many people i knew),then i immediately feel extremely angry and must switch over before i kick the telly in.
Thatcherites make me sick.
I would never knowingly watch something with that wretch in it,in fact when i see so much as a picture of that community destroying parasite who brought untold misery to millions of people(many people i knew),then i immediately feel extremely angry and must switch over before i kick the telly in.
Thatcherites make me sick.
In reply to Gudrun:
That Ned Chavez, was a right evil basturd!
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> I would never knowingly watch something with that wretch in it,in fact when i see so much as a picture of that community destroying parasite who brought untold misery to millions of people(many people i knew),then i immediately feel extremely angry and must switch over before i kick the telly in.
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Aye, Right enough Mary Doll> I would never knowingly watch something with that wretch in it,in fact when i see so much as a picture of that community destroying parasite who brought untold misery to millions of people(many people i knew),then i immediately feel extremely angry and must switch over before i kick the telly in.
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> Thatcherites make me sick.
That Ned Chavez, was a right evil basturd!
In reply to mypyrex:
and got inflation under control..... but at a massive cost. Soaring unemployment and interest rates, devastation of some communities which the country has never really recovered from. She could have done better, especially when you consider the North sea oil revenues she benefited from.
I'm luck to be from a town which lost its pits in the 60s. The government of the day did a lot to help replace the lost jobs.
Thatcher's legacy has been discussed in detail on other threads and it's clear that like most other PMs her record is pretty hit and miss. I really believe that like Harold Wilson she wanted to ensure the long term economic future of Britain, but like Wilson, she failed.
I see no reason why she should have had a quasi state funeral, it is not our tradition.
> (In reply to alastairmac) You obviously have no national pride or feeling for somebody who restored Great Britain's reputation in the world and broke econimic stranglehold that the unions and the likes of Scargill had on the country.
>and got inflation under control..... but at a massive cost. Soaring unemployment and interest rates, devastation of some communities which the country has never really recovered from. She could have done better, especially when you consider the North sea oil revenues she benefited from.
I'm luck to be from a town which lost its pits in the 60s. The government of the day did a lot to help replace the lost jobs.
Thatcher's legacy has been discussed in detail on other threads and it's clear that like most other PMs her record is pretty hit and miss. I really believe that like Harold Wilson she wanted to ensure the long term economic future of Britain, but like Wilson, she failed.
I see no reason why she should have had a quasi state funeral, it is not our tradition.
In reply to mypyrex: Ps. If we are going to go in for that sort of thing, North Korea takes some beating.
In reply to Papillon:
Funny reading peoples "England does this so well" rubbish. Do you not think that every country thinks the same of its drivel?
Funny reading peoples "England does this so well" rubbish. Do you not think that every country thinks the same of its drivel?
In reply to Oliiver:
Do you know what a liberal even is, or are you just using it as a term of abuse for people who don't agree with you that you've picked up from your right wing friends?
Do you know what a liberal even is, or are you just using it as a term of abuse for people who don't agree with you that you've picked up from your right wing friends?
In reply to Postmanpat:
The Vatican must have the cutest army in the World !
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> I think the Vatican's got it cracked; better costumes, both the soldiers and the chaps in dresses.
The Vatican must have the cutest army in the World !
In reply to Oliiver:
Nah, Bruce's are Aussi tossers swigging Fosters all day, unable to undrstand why their country is a cultural shit-hole.
> (In reply to Bruce Hooker) typical loathsome liberal. The name Bruce reminds me of some gay right activist in America.
Nah, Bruce's are Aussi tossers swigging Fosters all day, unable to undrstand why their country is a cultural shit-hole.
In reply to Gudrun: I shall dance on your grave. Communists make me sick.
In reply to Deviant:
Nah! Not a patch on the Greeks
http://www.greece-greece.info/images/greek-presidential-guard.jpg
youtube.com/watch?v=tSM4Cw_1V9E&
or the Pakistanis and Indians changing guard at the border post
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Nah! Not a patch on the Greeks
http://www.greece-greece.info/images/greek-presidential-guard.jpg
youtube.com/watch?v=tSM4Cw_1V9E&
or the Pakistanis and Indians changing guard at the border post
In reply to mypyrex:
Ah yes, another ill-thought out and mis-understood term term of abuse - 'communist'.
I assume you actually mean totalitarian, which, considering the amount of idiotic needing your hand to be held questions you ask on here I'd have thought you might actually be up for a bit of authoritarian rule.
Ah yes, another ill-thought out and mis-understood term term of abuse - 'communist'.
I assume you actually mean totalitarian, which, considering the amount of idiotic needing your hand to be held questions you ask on here I'd have thought you might actually be up for a bit of authoritarian rule.
In reply to mypyrex:
Chances are she will win that battle. She has probably got 30 years on you and even Glasgow won't straighten those odds.
> (In reply to Gudrun) I shall dance on your grave. Communists make me sick.
Chances are she will win that battle. She has probably got 30 years on you and even Glasgow won't straighten those odds.
In reply to mypyrex:
wouldnt it be cool if she was embalmed then kept on display in a glass case like ho chi minh and lenin?
wouldnt it be cool if she was embalmed then kept on display in a glass case like ho chi minh and lenin?
In reply to ice.solo: it's a tad late for that.
In reply to ice.solo:
Sadly, the Lady was for burning.
It would have been a fantastic money-spinner and totally in line with Maggie's liberal views.
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Sadly, the Lady was for burning.
It would have been a fantastic money-spinner and totally in line with Maggie's liberal views.
In reply to mypyrex:
I agree with what you say apart from other countries being envious. I can't see any evidence that they are or that we do it "better". Everyone does stuff like this quite well.
I agree with what you say apart from other countries being envious. I can't see any evidence that they are or that we do it "better". Everyone does stuff like this quite well.
In reply to Saor Alba: The North Koreans can certainly put on a show, what with all that goose stepping and all
In reply to mypyrex:
Indeed one can not help but be impressed by the manner and expertise in which the country wastes such vast sums of money. I am sure many countries will strive to equal this.
> Whatever ones thoughts about MT I doubt that many could have failed to be impressed by the manner in which yesterday's funeral was conducted. We do, in this country I believe, have a knack for conducting such ceremonies with an expertise that is the envy of many other countries.
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> In particular I was in awe of the bearer party led by the brothers Mott, finer military specimens would be hard to find anywhere. The whole bearer party conducted themselves magnificently.
Indeed one can not help but be impressed by the manner and expertise in which the country wastes such vast sums of money. I am sure many countries will strive to equal this.
In reply to mypyrex:
Oh dear old boy ! One appears not to be conducting oneself magnificently.
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Oh dear old boy ! One appears not to be conducting oneself magnificently.
In reply to sphagnum: I live in Australia and the verdict of many Aussies was that it was a great funeral. As to the cost, these things often bring in hidden revenues through tourism. People watch a great civic event like this and admire all the wonders of London including the magnificent St Pauls Cathedral and want to go and see it themselves. To people living outside the UK it's still one of the world's best places to visit and like Thatcher or not the 15 million spent on the funeral has made a great advert for tourism.
In reply to mypyrex:
And changed it into the hold the bankers had over the country, I'd rather the poor have some control over their future than the banks be given the freedom to bring down the whole world economy
> (In reply to alastairmac) You obviously have no national pride or feeling for somebody who restored Great Britain's reputation in the world and broke econimic stranglehold that the unions and the likes of Scargill had on the country.
And changed it into the hold the bankers had over the country, I'd rather the poor have some control over their future than the banks be given the freedom to bring down the whole world economy
In reply to Al Evans:
Quite right Al. If we'd let a bunch of coal face workers and lefty unionists invest our money we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.
Quite right Al. If we'd let a bunch of coal face workers and lefty unionists invest our money we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.
In reply to jon: Hardly that Jon, but we wouldn't have the bastards that shaxged the country laughing all the way to their own banks!
In reply to Al Evans:
No Al, the Unions were so thick, that in the process of shagging the country, they didn't even make any money for themselves
> (In reply to jon) Hardly that Jon, but we wouldn't have the bastards that shaxged the country laughing all the way to their own banks!
No Al, the Unions were so thick, that in the process of shagging the country, they didn't even make any money for themselves
Does anyone really think that Scargill, in instigating the strike for which IIRC there was no ballot, genuinely had the interests of the rank and file miners at heart rather than seeking a totally misguided political confrontation with the Conservative government?
In reply to mypyrex:
It's funny how these threads just end up looping back to the same old subjects.
You do realise that there were millions of other people who had their dreams shattered by economic desolation as well as the miners?
Whatever, your memory of those grim years are only of peripheral interest to me.
Re the funeral, my telly was broken over the the whole period between her snuffing it and getting burnt so I didn't see anything.
Can someone tell me if they actually showed the doors of the furnace getting slammed shut, that's the only bit I'd have liked to have seen. Just to make sure you understand.
It's funny how these threads just end up looping back to the same old subjects.
You do realise that there were millions of other people who had their dreams shattered by economic desolation as well as the miners?
Whatever, your memory of those grim years are only of peripheral interest to me.
Re the funeral, my telly was broken over the the whole period between her snuffing it and getting burnt so I didn't see anything.
Can someone tell me if they actually showed the doors of the furnace getting slammed shut, that's the only bit I'd have liked to have seen. Just to make sure you understand.
In reply to mypyrex:
Maybe this ceremonial stuff just appeals to those from the Southern part of our island. While we Scots can be persuaded to give just about anyone a good kicking if we're played a few songs by a pipe band we really don't as a a race get a hard on by that sort of flummery. By contrast I guess you could compare John Smith's funeral in Edinburgh, incredibly moving by dint of it being a normal funeral where thousands of people turned up spontaneously to pay their respects to John as he made his last journey home from his local church.
Certainly there was a rather thin turnout at the big TV screen in Edinburgh to see the back of her: https://witness.guardian.co.uk/assignment/516e3c1de4b049aa25e5e87b/278535
Maybe this ceremonial stuff just appeals to those from the Southern part of our island. While we Scots can be persuaded to give just about anyone a good kicking if we're played a few songs by a pipe band we really don't as a a race get a hard on by that sort of flummery. By contrast I guess you could compare John Smith's funeral in Edinburgh, incredibly moving by dint of it being a normal funeral where thousands of people turned up spontaneously to pay their respects to John as he made his last journey home from his local church.
Certainly there was a rather thin turnout at the big TV screen in Edinburgh to see the back of her: https://witness.guardian.co.uk/assignment/516e3c1de4b049aa25e5e87b/278535
In reply to Removed User:
We are not a race Eric
And as for flummery, last time looked the tattoo wad still held in Edinburgh. There is a portion of Scots society loves its rituals as much as the next nation....
Cheers
Gregor
We are not a race Eric
And as for flummery, last time looked the tattoo wad still held in Edinburgh. There is a portion of Scots society loves its rituals as much as the next nation....
Cheers
Gregor
In reply to Removed User:
Certainly there was a rather thin turnout at the big TV screen in Edinburgh to see the back of her
Did Edinburgh actually show it on their big screen though: -
http://www.wotshappeninginedinburgh.co.uk/this-is-crazy-big-tv-switched-off...
Which begs the question, if true, where exactly did the Guardian get their image from...
(A couple of seconds in photoshop is my guess).
Certainly there was a rather thin turnout at the big TV screen in Edinburgh to see the back of her
Did Edinburgh actually show it on their big screen though: -
http://www.wotshappeninginedinburgh.co.uk/this-is-crazy-big-tv-switched-off...
Which begs the question, if true, where exactly did the Guardian get their image from...
(A couple of seconds in photoshop is my guess).
In reply to moac:
Glad you err, enjoyed the funeral.
You may already know that public services in the UK are in meltdown due to the austerity cuts. This British paper published 23 things you could pay for with £10 million, quite fitting really:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/16/margaret-thatcher-funer...
As for it being a great advert for tourism, well that is highly subjective and dependant on what news agency you follow.
Any increase in revenue from tourism in London is great but it will not be re-distributed proportionately to those who paid their tax to the state in the first instance.
> (In reply to sphagnum) I live in Australia and the verdict of many Aussies was that it was a great funeral. As to the cost, these things often bring in hidden revenues through tourism. People watch a great civic event like this and admire all the wonders of London including the magnificent St Pauls Cathedral and want to go and see it themselves. To people living outside the UK it's still one of the world's best places to visit and like Thatcher or not the 15 million spent on the funeral has made a great advert for tourism.
Glad you err, enjoyed the funeral.
You may already know that public services in the UK are in meltdown due to the austerity cuts. This British paper published 23 things you could pay for with £10 million, quite fitting really:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/16/margaret-thatcher-funer...
As for it being a great advert for tourism, well that is highly subjective and dependant on what news agency you follow.
Any increase in revenue from tourism in London is great but it will not be re-distributed proportionately to those who paid their tax to the state in the first instance.
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