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So do nothing without criminal proof when British citizens in Salisbury are murdered but jump straight in when it's Saudis in Turkey. Consistency?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/13/labour-slams-government-over-...

In reply to MG:

Russia is our friend, Saudi Arabia is our enemy, so of course we accept a much lower standard of proof in the later case.....oh hang on.

In reply to MG:

Labour have been consistently tough on human rights abusers while the Conservatives have been consistently soft.

Corbyn condemned the Salisbury attack and said that the evidence points to Russia and the perpetrators must be brought to justice starting with invoking the international chemical weapons convention (following internationaly agreed process) and wanted to implement Magnitsky powers which would actually hurt Putin’s cronies and prevent Russian dark money flowing into the City of London.

What the tories did was protect £800k of Russian donations to the Conservative party by blocking the Magnitsky powers and ignoring international law and undermining the OPCW, giving Putin a get out of jail propaganda tool in the process.

In reply to cumbria mammoth:

It's remarkable that you get 5 dislikes for stating facts.

You'd have thought that some of those who were so outraged by your statements might have replied with some sort of repudiation.

Maybe they can't though. Maybe they're angry that reality turns out not to be not as their perceive it.

In reply to MG:

Citizen, not citizens. Accuracy? Just saying.

In reply to Graeme Alderson:

Attempted murder. Citizens. Plus further accidental death and injury. OK? 

In reply to Removed User:

Well not me but the point stands: why the discrepancy of reposnse?, Why not insist on lengthy investigations  before action here too? It's hypocritical to lambast the government for not acting in a way only months ago Labour was condemning, particularly as there is no Briton involved here.

I'd add I'd be much more circumspect of Turkish accounts than  MI5/police accounts too. 

In reply to cumbria mammoth:

You must be living on another planet. Corbyn's response was full of obfuscation and weasel words and infuriated most of his own MPs. He has had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a position which in any way relects the gravity of this offence. Even when presented with hard evidence sufficient to convince 27 countries to collectively expel over 150 Russian'diplomats' Corbyn was still struggling to condemn an enemy of the UK because at heart he himself is an enemy of the UK.

Why isn't he so keen to wait for irrefutable evidence this time around given that we don't actually know for sure what has happened yet? The answer is because in the topsy turvy la la land of the hard left our enemies are our friends and our friends are our enemies.

In reply to pec:

Oh aye. They can spew some empty rhetoric can’t they – making our country look weak and a laughing stock on the world stage. Worse, their approach of non compliance with international law and embellishment of the evidence lets Putin portray to the international community that Britain is dishonest. We could have had 192 signatories of the OPCW on our side, instead we have 27 countries engaging in a meaningless tit for tat expulsion of some diplomats.

Who is a friend of Putin? The Labour party, who want to use Magnitsky powers to blacklist Russian oligarchs linked to Putin and stop them flooding the UK with dark money, or the Conservative party, who are flush with Putin’s money and have blocked any attempt to implement the Magnitsky powers and undermined any attempt at building a worldwide consensus against Russia?

In reply to MG:

Yep, Corbyn acted like a dick over Skripal and was rightly hauled over the coals for it. This time the govt are the ones failing to step so you are rightly hauling Corbyn over the coals for Skripal. Eh? Oh, hold on....erm

In reply to MG:

What Tyler said. 

In reply to MG: If they'd learnt after Salisbury, and decided to be more 'on point' from then on, they'd be criticised for not being consistent, too. 'Thou shall be cursed forever by past mistakes' Possibly.