In reply to Goucho:
I think the negativity of the country is a huge issue.. people wanted to see them fail. Look at lemmings post 'over paid prima donnas'.. I bet he had that typed up back in May...
> God bless you Ian, you are a true and loyal England supporter - glass always half full?
> Costa Rica's performances have no bearing on England's or our position - played 2, lost 2, out of the world cup.
Nonsense.. of course it does, other games change what results are needed.
> It always will be.
> And just how much of your own cash would you bet on this? Plenty..
> Worse performance since 1954. Feck me, wouldn't we all love a job that considers that an achievement?
I dont thin we've achieved.. worst performance.. god no, last time was far worse, we limped out. This time we attacked and played fairly well. Silly errors. have we come a long way since the last WC? I think so..
We're far more attractive to watch, we have started trying to play an attacking game, more fluid.. yes 2 bad results but we shouldn't finish the project.
> England have done nothing since 1966 (OK, one semi-final) and have become the masters of mediocrity.
> It's always 'jam tomorrow' with England, but tomorrow never comes.
> Our players are a bunch of over pampered, over paid, frightened of their own shadows under achievers when they put on an England shirt.
I disagree, 90.. 96.. we've also, under Errikson, been consistent latter rounds.. I said at the time we'd look back on those years fondly.. but Erikson set us up with a great centre half partnership.. well our back 5, Neville, Cole, Terry (then Sol before), Rio, Seaman.. very consistent, professional players which gave us a base.. we need that back.
We need a right back, the left is Baines and Shaw, centre halts need stability so thats a huge issue.. at 31, and with a poor record, I think Jags can be jettisoned, but we've got to see if Jones or Stones can step in as top class centre halfs.. I think Smalling will be a squad man..
The overpaid insult is just ignorance.. they get paid because people pay to watch them. As long as club makes money why shouldn't the players get that? Or who the fat kid who inherited daddy's money? You don't begrudge Hamilton, Murray, Woods, Pitt, James, Manning or the many 100's of sportsman/actors or musicians who earn comparable wages…
Just a lazy insult..
Re frightened of their own shadow.. again this is just the one reason we should not slate rooney.. him and barkley were the ones who got the ball and tried to make things happen.. Look at Rooneys run from the kick off when they scored.. he wasn't frightened.. others were possibly.. I think Baines was and got shocked into actually being the player he was.. But you think singling players out who actually stand up and be counted helps?
We go on and on about passion.. play for your shirt and all this bollox.. we'd rather see players dive into challenges rather than try to get on the ball, beat players, take chances.. we finally have an england team who tried that.. was it 13 chances on target?
We actually played well against Uruguay in the second half.. just panicked when we scored and made stupid errors yo don't expect from kids teams..
the way you lo want hodgson sacked, players kicked out… is just throwing the baby out.. we have progressed. Look at us against Algeria? This times yes we went out.. out of a group we'd have done well to qualify from, with two fairly decent performances but playing with some attacking fluidity for the first time in a long time..
> Give the England team one thing, they do a brilliant impression of rabbits caught in a trucks headlights.
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