In reply to xyz:
> as one of the hardest sport routes in the world, along with Chris Sharma's Realisation 9a+, at Ceuse, France and Ramón Julián's La Rambla Direct 9a+ at Siurana, Spain.
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> I thought Dave Graham's route Coup de Grace in Ticino was given 9a+.
Talking to several people about this, including Steve this morning. Grades are proposed, and there are many above 9a, including DG's Coup de Grace. But until they get repeats, they aren't really 'confirmed' or indeed is there is no 'consensus' until they have had several repeats.
Another factor is the track record of the climber establishing the route or repeating it.
The two mentioned, Realisation and La Rambla Direct, tick the boxes, established by climbers with a track record AND repeated, and attempted by world class climbers. They are the ones most established at the grade.
I'm sure others will join the list eventually, there is a whole list of them. Some are mentioned in the report.
Akira, Chilam Balam, Violent New Breed, Flex Luthor, Orujo, La Novena Enmienda, Definicion de Resistencia Democrata, Bimbaluna, Flatmountain.....etc