The North Devon and Cornwall guide is now 12 years old and it's about time we started writing a new one. Iain Peters and I are taking on the project and are looking for helpers! How can you help?
1) There's a meeting to start the ball rolling at The Bush Inn, Morwenstowe http://www.bushinn-morwenstow.co.uk/ 10th November, 7pm - all are welcome. If you want to get involved but can't make the meeting, either contact us via this thread or email me.
2) UKC logbooks - please give feedback on any route you have done: Are grades and stars correct? What state are any in-situ pegs in? Are any belay or abseil stakes in good condition? Any new (or old) routes missing from the database etc?
With the above in mind, I'm working through the logbooks for the area adding as much info as I can to the database.
As a random thought, and I don't know whether it's within your powers to adjust things now, that weekend doesn't look so great for the tides (the CC website suggests appledore tides at about 3pm high which is going to be pretty limiting). That could put off any non/less local culm aficionados who might want to lend a hand.
As one of those non-local aficionados (a day at Sharpnose not long back reminded me how many good days out I've had on that bit of coast), I was hoping to make it down one of the other, better-tide weekends in November for some climbing, but probably can't justify driving down on a bad-tide weekend just for the meeting.
In reply to AJM: Having set the date so it suits a bunch of folks, I'm reluctant to change it!
I've now entered all the routes I know of into the database for the Culm Coast (Sloo Slabs - Widemouth Bay). I've not put in route descriptions for any of the routes in the guides (too much like hard work), but, with Dave Henderson's permission, I've copied across new route details from his javu website. (There are also a number of phototopos on his site). http://www.javu.co.uk/Climbing/NewRoutes/NorthDevonandCornwall/NorthDevonCornwall.shtml
We might be lucky with the weather, you never know. I'll be preparing a list for a Culm "dagger attack" - there are still loads of routes in the area which have not, as far as I know, been repeated since the 2000 guide, and probably some not since the 1988 guide.
> (In reply to Dave Garnett)
> I was the guy who managed to set fire to a tent on a Ceunant club meet to Borrowdale.
I didn't know that Mark. I remember Roger Lavil telling me about it. Now I don't know how much Roger embellished the story... but having dragged you from the smouldering remnants of the tent in front of a crowd of onlookers he turned and said to you:
"Go on... tell them what you do."
"I'm a safety officer."
"Go on... "
"For the Gas Board!"
Please, please don't tell me it's not true. Please.
That's not been decided yet. Baggy and The Exmoor Coast and Hurlstone Point will be covered by a new guide, but possibly in separate volumes, given the large number of new routes put up all along the N Coast in the 12 years since the last guide.
I have been climbing on this coast for about 25 years and have done a few new routes. I was speaking to Dave Hope previous guide writter about this just last month. Anyway very keen to help. I'll try to be there.
In reply to jon: Boiling an egg on my primus, bought the billy to the boil, put in the egg. Very strong smell of parafin, it was when the flames started coming out of the billy that I realised it was full of boiling parafin... (My parafin and water containers were almost identical.)
In reply to Mark Kemball:
Wow! What a great plan! Mark - would be lovely to come on 8th but prob wont be able to make it. I'll trawl thro my guide and comment on any routes as much as poss. I'd be keen to put in the DWS at Perranporth plus a few more gems!! I can work on Gowla if you want with James (oakapple).
In reply to Mark Kemball: Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread or contacted me. As far as I can tell, the logbook database now contains at least the names and grades for all the climbs on the Culm and the Atlantic coasts. There's bound to be errors and ommisions though - would be very pleased to hear of any.
Look forward to meeting you at the Bush on Saturday. (The beer is good!)
In reply to Mark Kemball: Thank you to all the folks who turned up at the meeting last night (about 20!) and to everyone who was unable to attend but has contacted Iain or myself offering help. I will be writing up notes from the meeting and circulating them in the next few days. Right now, the sun is shining I'm off out to check some Culm!
In reply to Iain Peters: Do you remember the night I think i first met you? It was on these roustabouts at the Baggy campsite. John Barry, then director of Plas Y Brenin was there and instrumental for us getting thrown out of the bar because of some altercarion with the bouncer.
We all retird to the tents to carry on drinking and John said 'there is one thing all if you can do better than anyone else in the world, if you find out yours and can make it commercial you are lauging' He vowed to show us his 'one thing in the world' after a couple more pints.
Sure enough, come midnight we assemled to see Johns great feat.
He got his dick out, built up a head of steam and pissed completely over a car can't remember whose( without touching it). An amazing feat and the only thing I can remember about your last organised SW meet
I'm not sure whether I should be allowed to organize any meet! A couple of years back one of my "bright idea" little gatherings, this time in Greece, ended up with a German yachtsman almost being thrown into a harbour and some serious negotiations with the Greek police!
Last night was, of course, arranged by Mark, and therefore ran like clockwork with all of the great and good of D&C climbing on their best behaviour. We're even going to be allowed back to the same pub in March, when hopefully many of the 300 or so daggered routes in the region will have lost that symbol.
Thanks to Mark and all the others. I reckon the next guide to ND&C is going to be an absolute belter. Pre-order now!!!!
In reply to Mark Kemball: I've just sent out an email to all the people who were at the meeting or who offered to help. If you don't get your email (because I've miss-typed an address), please contact me.