In reply to ollie1:
> I try not to be influenced by it; who gives a shit? But still find myself reluctant to log memorable vdiff climbs I've done with my 6 year old daughter for fear of bringing down my average grade.
> It might mean more people (or I at least) can climb (and actually enjoy) an easier route without the nagging feeling that this f*cking climb is nibbling away at all the hard work I've put in this year.
Which is it - 'memorable V Diffs' or 'this f*cking climb'? Only you can decide.
The first route I led was a V Diff - all 500 feet of it. I was on it all day. (Luckily it wasn't Grooved Arete or anything like that. It was in Ireland and there was no-one else on the crag - or maybe even in the valley. So I wasn't holding anyone up.) It was the most glorious experience. Years later, I used to solo that route in a few minutes; it was the most soulless experience. And yet it was the same route.
The routes are what we make them. But the grade is just a number, there to give us a steer on how daunting a route's likely to be. If we chase numbers, we're reducing the route to a number. We're denying the potential richness of the experience.
Your six year old daughter will never be six years old again. Yes, you will have other times with her but you will never have this time again. The potential richness of the experience is beyond any grade there will ever be.
Mick