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In the logbook, if you log a climb as dnf, then come to finish the route in the future your options are limited to redpoint/head point or repeat ascent. If you start up a climb and don't finish, but down climb rather than lower/fall then come back and do the route without falling, it's still an onsight. Could the logbook be changed to accommodate this?

In reply to Alex Riley:

Ground up perhaps - but it's not an onsight. You didn't climb it 'on sight'.

In reply to tehmarks:

It is what it is, there are many reasons for down climbing other than ability. What difference does it make if you stand there for 4 hours figuring out what to do, or go away, have a cup of tea, then come back and climb it? I still claim an onsight if I down climb then succeed at a later time/date. If you wish to be that pure then using a guidebook and having a pre-knowledge of the grade and route would mean nothing was an onsight.

In reply to Alex Riley: Just log it as whatever then go back and edit it. For some reason it then gives you all the options.

 

In reply to mrphilipoldham:

I always thought having a cup of tea counts as aid? 

In reply to tehmarks:

My point is you can't log it as either. I'm not too fussed, but I'd rather log it right.

It would be ground up with a fall.

In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Apologies, I misread the OP and thought it was referring to a DNF after falling. I still personally wouldn't log an onsight if I'd downclimbed and cleared my head on terra firma, but equally I couldn't really care less what other people log it as

In reply to Alex Riley:

That ground up isn't an option is a bit dull - assuming that a DNF means a fall or lowered on gear obviously isn't quite correct.

As things stand I'd probably delete my original attempt and note as a note on the successful attempt.

In reply to tehmarks:

Yes, that was really my point, that there is just a bit of a gap in how you can log, for example it makes sense to not be able to log a route as dogged, then onsight but dnf is a bit less defined and has more nuance.

I seem to have ruffled a few feathers dislike wise haha 

In reply to Alex Riley:

Read your replies! Duncan Campbell has already told you what to do. 

In reply to tehmarks:

Exactly!