In reply to tom_in_edinburgh:
> I'm not criticising Awesome Walls for anything, They don't operate in Scotland and I've got no view on them at all. I'm responding to your criticism of Edinburgh Council not letting EICA fail.
You need to read back up the thread and see exactly who and what I was criticising/responding to. I was responding to Mike Nolans ludicrous assertion about Awesome Walls not being like Ratho. I made no comment on Edinburgh council's subsidy until you waded in saying you'd be surprised if EICA wasn't now making money. All I did was point out it continues to make a substantial operating loss as it has done throughout its life, even ignoring the opportunity cost of all that capital.
> Edinburgh Leisure is a charity and has obviously been given wider goals by the council, such as furthering the health of people living in Edinburgh. They get some subsidy and they can keep admission prices under control. Which is a good thing.
And irrelevant to this topic.
> It looks to me like the 'subsidy' for EICA is going down year on year and is now pretty small in the scheme of things for a city the size of Edinburgh.
Yes it appears be going down from near half a million PA to nearly a thrid of a million which is completely at odds with your assertion it was probably making money. As I said, I did no more than correct your assumption.
> Edinburgh Leisure have spent money on a clip-and-climb, roof improvements and better lighting within the last year or two
It had a completely new roof in 2007 and so saying it had another new roof in 2013 hardly feeds in to the narrative that this isn't something of a white elephant.
> and as a result the place seems much busier and from their own annual report they seem happy with how things are going and thinking about more investment. Ten years ago that location and climbing were both problems: these days that side of the city is getting more and more development and climbing is in a growth surge.
But still not able to exist without substantial public sector funding, someth privately operated walls have to/manage to do, hence my original response to Mike Nolan which you seem to have taken umbrage at.
> If you want to get hot under the collar about government money getting spent on sports facilities start with the billions of UK taxpayer money poured into the Olympic venues in London rather than Edinburgh Council putting a few hundred K per year of its own money into Ratho.
I don't and I didn't I was just gobsmacked at someone failing to see how and why Awesome Walls couldn't strive to be another Ratho. I then corrected an incorrect assumption you made, which I now see was a mistake on my part.......