In reply to Offwidth:
> I don't see a BMC tone.
Probably they don't actually know how to react?
> So far some Peak area activists have expressed one view on the detail of the work done and others have expressed the opposite.
From what I can gather Henry Folkard says the work has been 'done proper' and Neil Foster says it will all get better, without actually knowing or visiting the crag? And others have said off the record they like a crag that has been stripped.
> Maybe you are not aware of who is who in BMC activism.
That really smacks a bit of 'Do you know who I am, little man?' Henry Folkard has done enormous amounts for the BMC in the Peak: hero. But unless he positively approves (approved?) of the damage done I'm not sure it is relevant. I, and others, have no beef with Henry; our ire is directed at whoever has done the damage to this crag.
> I like trees and in the end would normally favour loss of some climbs to save mature trees; if the crag situation was stable... at Aldery, in the case of some trees, it was not...... Still, I was saddened by the initial BMC sanctioned work because some lovely mature trees were lost
I'm unclear what you are saying here. The survey identified trees that were threatening the stability of the crag and they 'had' to go? And the BMC approved the removal of trees and that work was undertaken with their knowledge? But someone has come along and done a load more that was not specified?
> Wherever we end up I hope we can all agree that any major work on BMC land, in the future, should be with BMC agreement.
How do we do that, then if it seems apparent that actions such as this produce a bit of handwringing by folks on the web and a pretty tritely humorous response on the BMC site and nothing else.
I remember being involved in a site visit with Dave Turnbull (more years ago than he probably cares to remember) at Woodhouse Scar. Someone had gone mental with a chainsaw there (but nothing as extreme as this current case) and the local Countryside service was hopping mad. Rare moths, protected trees, criminal charges, etc. They were proper pissed. I mean PROPER.