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Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018

Hello.

There are rumours around that DMM has been selling tactical equipment to Saudi Arabia.

Does anyone know if there is any truth on this?

With what is going on in Syria and Yemen, what do people think of this?

Sav

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Luke90 on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I think the answer to the first question needs to be clearly established before anybody gets too hot and bothered about the second.

Dell on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

It's entirely possible that they are supplying the MOD, who in turn are sending it to Saudi Arabia.

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Luke90:

I agree.

We could ask DMM!

 

Post edited at 17:00
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Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Dell:

This is very possible.

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jezb1 - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> I agree.

> We could ask DMM!

Do what you want.

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jezb1:

Why that tone?

What do you know?

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JLS on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Don't worry about it. I've sold three old Black Diamond crabs via EBay to the SRC in Yeman; that about evens things up.

 

mrphilipoldham - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

So long as it's not the new Dragon 7 & 8 cams, I'm fed up of waiting for them now..

Larefia on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I think it doesn't matter the tactical stuff is all Black and I like my kit shiny and anodised bright colours.

jezb1 - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> Why that tone?

'Cos its crap gossip and a stupid question.

> What do you know?

About them maybe selling kit to Saudi Arabia? Even less than you apparently.

Maybe the Saudis are stockpiling DMM 1.5m steel slings too and that's why they have none in stock...

 

 

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to JLS:

No worries.

But since you mentioned Black Diamond, haven't they been bought by holding company who owns an ammunitions manufacture with close ties to the NRA? 

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jimtitt - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I´ve sold bolts to the US navy, the British Army, the Sultanate of Oman, the Chinese, Cubans, Vietnamese and Gary Gibson amongst others, does this make me a bad person?

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Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Larefia:

I remember reading that the tactical stuff was painted black.

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FactorXXX - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jimtitt:

> I´ve sold bolts to the US navy, the British Army, the Sultanate of Oman, the Chinese, Cubans, Vietnamese and Gary Gibson amongst others, does this make me a bad person?

I like the way that you've listed your customers in ethics reverse order...  

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jimtitt:

IMO, I'm not sure.

Post edited at 18:45
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Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jezb1:

Actually it come up on FB on a post on another topic. 

Post edited at 18:48
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JayPee630 - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

https://brigantes.com/

FYI....

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to JayPee630:

Thanks 

99ster - on 27 Apr 2018
richprideaux - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> But since you mentioned Black Diamond, haven't they been bought by holding company who owns an ammunitions manufacture with close ties to the NRA? 

Just curious, what's your issue with the NRA?

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richprideaux - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Larefia:

> I think it doesn't matter the tactical stuff is all Black and I like my kit shiny and anodised bright colours.

A client of mine turned up on a course with a Jetboil that was in multicam/camo. They put it down somewhere in the Moelwyns and promptly lost it. They never did find it as far as I know...

Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to JayPee630:

Holy smokes!

There are a lot of outdoor companies there.

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Mountain Spirit - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to richprideaux:

Don't you think that the National Rifle is too powerful?

What about all the school shootings?

Post edited at 19:17
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richprideaux - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

AFAIK none of the mass-shooter events in the US have been committed by an NRA member? 

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d_b on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jimtitt:

But would you sell them to the (hypothetical) Stanage bolt fund?

Purple - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> Hello.

> There are rumours around that DMM has been selling tactical equipment to Saudi Arabia.

> Does anyone know if there is any truth on this?

> With what is going on in Syria and Yemen, what do people think of this?

Maybe the rumours are true, in which case Sav, if you ever start climbing, the whole situation could become an issue for you.

 

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Robert Durran - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to jimtitt:

> I´ve sold bolts to the US navy, the British Army, the Sultanate of Oman, the Chinese, Cubans, Vietnamese and Gary Gibson amongst others, does this make me a bad person?

Only Gary Gibson.

JackM92 - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Dell:

They do, it’s used by the Royal Marines. Black for stealth but it still jingles just as much.

d_b on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to JackM92:

I heard they tried making silent stealthy cams out of rubber but they didn't work so well and left skid marks on the crag.

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David Cohen - on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Thanks be to Allah, peace be upon him, that they aren't selling it to the Iranians.

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d_b on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to David Cohen:

Iran has better mountains.

alx on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to d_b:

> I heard they tried making silent stealthy cams out of rubber but they didn't work so well and left skid marks on the crag.

Were they left by the cams or the climbers attempting to use them?

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d_b on 27 Apr 2018
In reply to alx:

Almost certainly both if I hadn't been making it up.

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