In reply to DerwentDiluted:
> I haven't done the route so am not at all qualified to comment but
Well, I wasn't going to say that but...
> surely the + cancels out the M and the route is just plain old VS?
Of course not! It's obviously at the top end of MVS but not quite VS-, surely that's clear?
Anyway, you're taking this way too seriously. Grades are all made up. It may shock you to know that HVS is a completely invented grade. It wasn't given to Moses on a tablet of Bendcrete. There was once a grade (especially in the Lakes) of VS(hard), and that was made up too!