In reply to Michael Ryan - UKC and UKH: Tony is not the art dealer/GP. That is john hart, peak district activist who put up a number of very hard new routes on both grit and limestone - including a UK 7a at Curbar which might be unrepeated, and too many to mention eights at cheedale..amazing that john runs a busy practice, has a family, trained like a demon, and performs brilliantly on rock..