In reply to rurp: Ok, I will come back in on this,
RU is HVS, way too much gear nowadays to be upgraded, I found LU easier yes I did it first, but it does have less gear so E1
what you are saying is topping out is not HVS 5a, well, its protected and a classic top out
Compared to Monday blue on the arete, i thought this was soft for the grade
and as has been said there are plenty of HVS routes that are harder and I have done most of the ones talked about, some now upgraded to E1 some not (kellys overhang i think should still be HVS)
Mantle finishes have never been my thing, one of the worst I remember was Mad Hatter at curbar, totally safe but could not mantle it so took a while to beach on that one
someone i know once said, dont do anything under E1, then you dont have to fail on anytihng under E1!
Overlap in grades varies from persons own style, but there is a broad range of HVS and E1 that could be one or the other, I am not too bothered either way
and as a suggestion to a HVS climber I would say have a go at RU, its got loads of gear on it, safer than so many other HVS 5a's, like billiard buttress as example nearby way bigger fall potential here