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How about a constrictor knot versus clove hitch thread?

No it is not enough.

There is plenty more to be said.

We have not even had anyone comment on the inherent chirality of figure-of-8 and stopper knots and hence fully enumerate the 8 non-identical variations of the basic tie-in method thus arising...

In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Chirality! Excellent new word for today.

In reply to rockcat: What about the reef knot/granny it could run for months.

In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

This reminds me of a climber I once met whon was a mathematician specialising in knot theory in n-dimensions. He also apparently had a reputation for always getting his ropes hopelessly kinked and tangled.

In reply to Robert Durran:

less chirality, more hilarity

In reply to rockcat: I'm not getting roped into this thread

In reply to rockcat:

What does surprise me is the number of people who appear to accept a statement as fact (for whatever reason) rather than get a piece of rope and do a few experiments so you KNOW what the situation is.


Chris

In reply to toad:


Amazing!

I am new to this can someone summarise the figure 8/bowline debate?

FYI, when I am not using a figure 8 I tie the rope around my neck like a noose - I find it gives me extra motivation to not fall off.

In reply to toad:

I'd rather knot either...

In reply to Chris Craggs:

I couldn't agree more, Chris. I used a bowline for several years, before one day seeing a perfect double-bowline, which I had tied myself not 5 minutes previously, unravel before my eyes as I sat down to put my shoes on. Twas all the experimental evidence I needed.

In reply to Robert Durran:

Not Tom B. by any chance?

In reply to ChrisJD:

Unless I'm very much mistaken
Somebody might get hurt
Even they tie their knot correctly

And I'm not sure what the best way forward is.

Frankly, the whole situation is a mess.
I get confused as to which knot is best.
Granted, the situation is complicated, but
Unless I'm very much mistaken, the
Reality is that you should use whatever you're happy with.
Even if you're wrong. That way you'll live to be
80 years old.

:P

In reply to ChrisJD:

The quality of posts certainly isn't bowline me over...

In reply to Robert Durran:

You mean strings surely?

In reply to Bulls Crack:

Surely knot!

In reply to Ramblin dave:

This thread could be your undoing....don't loosen up

In reply to rockcat:

Thats enough figure 8 / bowline threads for now

I'm a frayed knot!




That's me done. I can't think of any more knot puns.

In reply to rockcat: i didn't think so many people would bight....

In reply to cuppatea:
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You should harness your imagination

In reply to ChrisJD:

There once was a climber named Jock
who tied a bowline to his cock.
When he fell it undid---
from its moorings it slid;
he was glad that the knot did not lock.