In reply to Hazelnuts:
> Was at the Shakemantle Slabs the other day and the guidebook was giving trad grades for bolted sport routes. Is this normal?? Why would a french grade not be given?
It's common enough where a few old bolted routes exist in a largely trad area (especially in older books) and quite useful where the bolting is less than ideal. From memory Shakemantle falls into both categories (or did 10 years ago).
jk