In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com: good idea, would think they'd be more useful places like pembroke/swanage/wales than on grit. eg, want to take the guide to the bottom of a crag where you need to abb in then climb back up with it or multi-pitch. on grit it wouldnt matter so much. could be useful on multipitch peak limestone tho.
Anonymous14 Mar 2007
In reply to FedUp:
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> Simply not needed. Just money grabbing....
What an odd comment. Of course they're not needed, and of course they're intended to make money, just like many other climbing products, and indeed any other products. Do you go round round Sainsbury's pointing out every variation on an existing product and point out it's not needed and that Sainsbury's are only trying to make money?
In reply to Fredt: GO and swot up on your history Fred. Alan is going back to his rootz man.
Chris Tan Ver. XLIX14 Mar 2007
In reply to FedUp:
Desnivel have been doing this for years; Best cracks in La Pedriza, Best slabs in La Pedirza, Shaded summer routes in La Pedriza, Sunny winter routes in La Pedriza....
Once you've captured the information in an easy-to-manipulate form, why not present it to the public in different ways. Good luck to them I say.
Chris ( still a user of BMC definitive crossword puzzles) Tan
I object to that - you can't classify routes in the Lakes by coloured spots! But a selection of the best multi-pitch easier routes would be rather nice...
They look pretty good. Personally I wouldn't buy a stripped down guidebook containing only a fraction of the routes for half the price for somewhere like the peaks where carrying a book isnt an issue.
Produce them for sea cliffs or mountain areas though and do them on tough paper and that would definitely be worth it.
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> - a new Pembroke Pokketz
> - Swanage Select
> - Multi-pitch routes in the Costa Blanca
> - Lakes Green and Orange Spot routes
> - ...... ?
I can see myself buying all of those (Liz - we need a bigger bookshelf), but not the peak ones. A collection of classic multi-pitch limestone routes would be good - but mixing Limestone and Gritstone, it's just plain wrong !
> They look pretty good. Personally I wouldn't buy a stripped down guidebook containing only a fraction of the routes for half the price for somewhere like the peaks where carrying a book isnt an issue.
To be honest, we aren't really aiming at owners of Eastern Grit and the other Peak Rockfaxes with this, it is more aimed at the occasional and new climber.
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com: why does the weight of the guide matter? it not like every grame counts in the peak. i'd save my money and get eastern grit, much better value in my opinon.
In reply to Alan James - UKC: a lofoten pocketz would be good, as would specific crags/ares. eg cloggy and the pass. gogarth. scafell, east butteress and esk butteress. don't really see the ponit in the peak one tho.
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> Its the new format that is important (new to us that is!) - when you get that Lakes Select guide written it will be perfect as a Pokketz!
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He's got to get his 'best grade Vs on Ben Nevis' guide finished first
It is a bit of a luxury activity since the cartoons take ages, and no-one is really willing to pay much for them. At the moment I am just too busy to justify devoting the time to them.