In reply to gingerkate:
Yeah but less so. Sliding scale innit. It's all linked to how likely you think it is that you'll fall off.
Whether it's productive or not to dwell on it is another question to whether it's justified.
In reply to Glyn Jones:
So are you fearless, or scared of everything then?
My point about trad being scary was farily simple. How is it possible for an E1 with easier climbing than F6a/6a+ or whatever the maximum french grade is (ignoring idiosyncratic bouldery F6b-6b+ -you try and grade them then- examples) to still get E1. It's either got to have a bold or committing or runout or loose bit on it, or something else adjectival that I haven't thought of, fiddly gear or crap pegs. All of these things potentially manifest themselves as fear, or at least as challenges in your head or to your technical repertoire, but no matter how much of a gear genius or loose rock style god you are I think they boil down to the fear.
There is a side issue about how do you give a sport grade to something that really does just boil down to a single move - an E4 moment say of a bold 6a move or a death 5c chop one- ,
and the so called technically-difficult-route, but I think these slabby delicate things are usually bold anyway and should get higher sport grades in any case.