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 The Lemming 28 Jul 2007
In my oppinion it has to be Blencathra.

It has a beautiful shape with a variety of ways to ascend it and for me it overlooks the best stretch of water in the Lake District.



Please feel free to give your fave hill for Scotland, Ireland or Wales as well
Etak 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: and a loverly view over the A66....
 sjbutterworth 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Hard to argue with; Blencathra is magnificent.

I'm fond of Pillar as well, just love the High Level Route round to Pillar Rock.
In reply to The Lemming:

second for blencathra... though scafell pike runs it pretty close

wales... i'd go for the obvious and choose snowdon, but i dont really know snowdonia well enough yet...

scotland... where do you start...?!

one from:

ben nevis
buachaille etive mor
bidean nam bian
liathach
beinn eighe
ladhar bheinn
sgurr nan gillean
blaven/clach glas
or stac pollaidh

all of them fantastic...

and all of them better than any mountain anywhere else in the UK...

cheers
gregor


 VisionSet 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Without thinking too hard:

Bowfell, Fleetwith Pike, Yewbarrow
Removed User 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Blencathra is a very fine hill.

In Scotland, for me it would be a toss up between the Buachaille and Sgurr nan Gillean. But then there's the Ben, and...
 VisionSet 28 Jul 2007
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

> second for blencathra... though scafell pike runs it pretty close

eh? High level flat boulder field. 'bout as shapely as a cowpat.
 zorro 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Jimmy? Has a chin to die for
 VisionSet 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Removed User:

In scotland for me it is Liathach, but agree the buckle runs it close.
 edmonio 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: crinkle crags without a doubt
In reply to VisionSet:
> (In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs)
>
> [...]
>
> eh? High level flat boulder field. 'bout as shapely as a cowpat.

not pretty, but hemmed in by the most impressive array of cliffs in england, a proper mountain...

gregor
 Peter Walker 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

England: Blencathra
Wales: Cadair Idris
Scotland: Liathach
Ireland: Brandon Mountain
 Steve Perry 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Bowfell for sure!!
OP The Lemming 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Nobody has commented on my choice of title where I chose the word "Hill"

Is there such a thing as a mountain in England?
 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
>
> Please feel free to give your fave hill for Scotland, Ireland or Wales as well

Here is some of the hills that I have done and liked in Scotland:

A'Bhuidheanach Bheag
A'Chaileach
A'Chailleach
A'Chralaig
A'Ghlas-bheinn
A'Ghlas-bheinn
Am Basteir
Am Bodach
Am Faochagch
A'Mhaighdean
A'Mharconaich
An Caisteal
An Coileachan
An Gearanach
An Riabhachan
An Sgarsoch
An Socach
An Socach
An Socach - West Summit
An Stuc
An Teallach - Bidein a 'Ghlas Thuill
An Teallach - sgurr Fiona
Aonach air Chrith
Aonach Beag
Aonach Beag
Aonach Meadhoin
Aonach Mor
Beinn a "Bheithir - Sgorr Dhearg
Beinn a' Bhuird
Beinn a' Chlaidheimh
Beinn a' Chleibh
Beinn a Chreachain
Beinn a' Ghlo - Carn nan Gabhar
Beinn Achaladair
Beinn a'Chaorainn
Beinn a'Chaorainn
Beinn a'Chlachair
Beinn a'Chochuill
Beinn a'Chroin
Beinn a'Ghlo - Braigh Corie Chruinn
Beinn Alligin -Sgurr Mhor
Beinn an Dothaidh
Beinn Bheoil
Beinn Bhrac
Beinn Bhrotain
Beinn Bhuidhe
Beinn Chabhair
Beinn Dearg
Beinn Dearg
Beinn Dorain
Beinn Dubhchraig
Beinn Eibhin
Beinn Eighe - Ruadh-stac Mor
Beinn Eunaich
Beinn Fhada (Ben Attow)
Beinn Fhionnlaidh
Beinn Fhionnlaidh
Beinn Ghlas
Beinn Heasgarnich
Beinn Ime
Beinn Iutharn Mhor
Beinn Liath Mhor
Beinn Liath Mhor Fannaich
Beinn Mhanach
Beinn Mheadhoin
Beinn na Lap (Loch Ossian)
Beinn nan Aighenan
Beinn Narnain
Beinn Sgritheall
Beinn Tarsuinn
Beinn Teallach
Beinn Tulaichean
Beinn Udlamain
Beinn-a'Ghlo
Ben Alder
Ben Avon
Ben Challum
Ben Chonzie (Ben-y-Hone)
Ben Cruachan
Ben Hope
Ben Klibreck
Ben Lawes
Ben Lomond
Ben Lui
Ben Macdui
Ben Moore (Crianlarich)
Ben More (Mull)
Ben More Assynt
Ben Nevis
Ben Oss
Ben Sgulaird
Ben Starav
Ben Vane
Ben Vorlich
Ben Vorlich (Loch Earn)
Ben Wyvis - Glas Leatherhad Mor
Bidean nam Bian
Bidein a'Choire Sheasgaich
Binnein Beag
Binnein Mor
Bla Bheinn - Blaven
Braeriach
Broad Cairn
Bruach na Frithe
Buachaille Etive Beag - Stob Dubh
Buachaille Etive Mor
Bynack More
Cairn Bannoch
Cairn Gorm
Cairn of Claise
Cairn Toul
Carn a'Chlamain
Carn a'Gheoidh
Carn a'Mhaim
Carn an Fhidhleir or Carn Ealar
Carn an Righ
Carn an t-Sagairt Mor
Carn an Tuirc
Carn Aosda
Carn Bhac
Carn Deaarg
Carn Dearg
Carn Dearg (Loch Ossian)
Carn Eighe
Carn Ghlusaid
Carn Gorm
Carn Liath
Carn Mairg
Carn Mor Dearg
Carn na Caim
Carn nan Cobhar (Sgurr na Lapaich group)
Carn nan Gobhar (Strathfarrar)
Carn Sgulain
Chno Dearg
Ciste Dhubh
Cona 'Mheall
Conival
Creag aMhaim
Creag Leacach
Creag Meagaidh
Creag Mhor
Creag Mhor
Creag nan Damh
Creag Pitridh
Creise
Cruach Ardrain
Derry Cairngorm
Driesh
Druim Shionnach
Eiddh nan Clach Geala
Fionn Bheinn
Gairch
Gaor Bheinn or Gulvain
Garbh Chioch Mhor
Geal Charn
Geal Charn
Geal Charn
Geal-Charn
Glas Bheinn Mhor
Glas Maol
Glas Tulaichean
Gleouraich
Inaccessible Pinnacle - Sgurr Dearg
Ladhar Bheinn
Liathach - Mullach an Rathain
Liathach - Spidean a'Choire Leith
Lochnagar
Luinne Bheinn
Lurg Mhor
Mam Sodhail
Maoile Lunndaidh
Maol Chean-dearg
Maol Chinn-dearg
Mayar
Meal Chuaich
Meal Corranaich
Meall A' Bhuiridh
Meall a'Choire Leith
Meall a'Chrasgidh
Meall Buidhe
Meall Buidhe
Meall Dearg
Meall Garbh
Meall Garbh
Meall Ghaordie
Meall Glas
Meall Gorm
Meall Greigh
Meall na Teanga
Meall nan Ceapraichean
Meall nan Eun
Meall nan Tarmachan
Monadh Mor
Moruisg
Mount Keen
Mullach Clach a'Bhlair
Mullach Corie Mhic Fhearchair
Mullach Fraoch-choire
Mullach na Dheiragain
Mullach nan Coirean
Na Gruagaichean
Sail Chaorainn
Saileag
Schiehallion
Seana Bhraigh
Sgairneach Mhor
Sgiath Chuil
Sgor an Lochain Uaine
Sgor Gaoith
Sgor na h-Ulaidh
Sgor nam Fiannaidh
Sgorr Dhonuill
Sgorr Ruadh
Sgurr a' Ghreadaidh
Sgurr a' Mhadaidh (SW Peak)
Sgurr a'Bhealaich Dheirg
Sgurr a'Chaorachain
Sgurr a'Choire Ghlais
Sgurr Alasdair
Sgurr a'Mhaim
Sgurr a'Mharaich
Sgurr an Doire Leathain
Sgurr an Lochain
Sgurr Ban
Sgurr Breac
Sgurr Choinich
Sgurr Choinnich Mor
Sgurr Dubh Mor
Sgurr Eilde Mor
Sgurr Fhuaran
Sgurr Fhuar-thuill
Sgurr Mhic Choinnich
Sgurr Mor
Sgurr Mor
Sgurr na Banachdich - North Peak
Sgurr na Carnach
Sgurr na Ciche
Sgurr na Ciste Duibhe
Sgurr na Lapaich
Sgurr na Ruaidhe
Sgurr na Sgine
Sgurr nan Ceannaichean
Sgurr nan Ceathremhnan
Sgurr nan Clach Geala
Sgurr nan Coireachan
Sgurr nan Conbhairean
Sgurr nan Each
Sgurr nan Eag
Sgurr nan Gillean
Sgurr nan Goirechan (Glen Dessary)
Sgurr Thuilm
Slioch
Spidean Coire nan clash
Spidean Mialach
Sron a'Choire Ghairbh
Stob a' Choire Mheadhoin
Stob A Choire Odhair
Stob Ban
Stob Ban
Stob Binnein
Stob Choire Claurigh
Stob Coir'an Albannaich
Stob Coire Sgreamach
Stob Coire Sgriodain
Stob Coirre a' Chairn
Stob Corie an Laoigh
Stob Corie Easain
Stob Corrie Raineach
Stob Diamh
Stob Gaibhre
Stob Ghabhar
Stob na Broige
Stob Poite Coire Ardair
Stuc a 'Chroin
Stuchd an Lochain
The Cairnwell
The Devil's Point
The Saddle
Toll Creagach
Tolmount
Tom a'Choinich
Tom Buidhe
Tom na Gruagaich
White Mounth - Carn a'Coire Boidheach

 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
>
> Please feel free to give your fave hill for Scotland, Ireland or Wales as well

Here is some more hills that I have done and liked in Scotland:

Beinn Dearg
Sgurr a'Choire-bheithe
Leathad an Taobhain
Beinn Bhreac
The Fara
Ganu Mor, Foinaven
Beinn Dearg Mor
Beinn nan Oighreag
Streap
Meall Buidhe
Beinn Maol Chaluim
Fuar Tholl
Leum Uilleim
Ben Vuirich
Beinn Damh
Beinn Odhar
Beinn an Lochain
Beinn Mheadhonach
Ben Tee
Sgurr an Fhuarain
Culardoch
Aonach Buidhe
Beinn a' Buiridh
The Goet, Ben Tirran
Gairbeinn
Beinn Bhan
Ruadh-stac Beag
Creag Mhor
Sgurr nan Eugallt
Beinn a' Chuallaich
An Ruadh-stac
Aonach Shasuinn
Beinn Enaiglair
Creagan na Beinne
Sgurr Dhomhnuill
Ben Aden
Beinn a' Chaisteil
Meall a' Ghiubhais
Cam Chreag
Garbh Bheinn
Sgurr a'Bhac Chaolais
The Cobbler [Ben Arthur] [Notes]
Stob Dubh
Beinn Odhar Bheag
Rois-Bheinn
Beinn Chuirn
Sgurr Mhurlagain
Ben Ledi
Creag Uchdag
Fraochaidh
Sguman Coinntich
Sgurr a'Mhuillinn
Carn an Fhreiceadain
A'Chaoirnich (formerly Maol Creag an Loch)
Baosbheinn
Sgurr na Ba Glaise
Goatfell
Sgorr nan Lochan Uaine
Ben Hee
Morven
Meall na Meoig, Beinn Pharlagain
Faochaig
Garbh Bheinn [Notes]
Bidean a'Chabair, Sgurr na h-Aide
Stob a' Choin
Beinn Mhic Chasgaig
Carn a'Choire Ghairbh
Beinn Tharsuinn
Cam Chreag
Carn Liath
Meall na h-Aisre
Sgurr na Feartaig
Beinn a' Bha'ach Ard
Beinn Lair
Morrone
Caisteal Abhail
Beinn Luibhean
Fraoch Bheinn
Beinn a' Chrulaiste
Cruach Innse
Carn Dearg Mor
Beinn a'Chaisgein Mor
Conachraig
Stob an Aonaich Mhoir
Beinn Bhuidhe
Beinn an Eoin
Creach Bheinn
Meall an t-Seallaidh
Beinn nan Imirean
Sgurr Ghiubhsachain
Cul Mor
Ben Donich
Canisp
Beinn Resipol
Carn Ban
Merrick
Beinn Mholach
Ben Vrackie
Sgurr an Airgid
Broad Law
Beinn Udlaidh
Ben Rinnes
Meallan nan Uan
Beinn Trilleachan
Sgurr Gaorsaic
Meall na h-Eilde
Carn Chuinneag
Sron a' Choire Chnapanich
Sgurr Cos na Breachd-laoigh
Creag nan Gabhar
Carn Dearg [E of Glen Roy]
Beinn Dearg
Brown Cow Hill
Carn Mor
An Dun
Beinn Tarsuinn
Geal-charn Mor
White Coomb
Benvane
Geal Charn
Beinn Dearg Bheag
Beinn Chaorach
Carn na Drochaide
Sgorr na Diollaid
Binnein an Fhidhleir, Stob Coire Creagach
Carn a'Chuilinn
Carn Dearg [N of Gleann Eachach]
Breabag
Corserine
An Stac
An Sidhean
Bac an Eich
Beinn Each
Sgor Mor
Askival
Carn na Saobhaidhe
Creach Bheinn
Meall a'Bhuachaille
Creag MacRanaich
Meall na Fearna
Hart Fell
Sgurr Innse
Sail Gharbh, Quinag
Monamenach
Creag Rainich
Meall nan Subh
Beinn nam Fuaran
Ben Gulabin
Garbh-bheinn
Carn Mor
Geal Charn
Beinn na h-Eaglaise
The Sow of Atholl
Beinn Bhreac-liath
Meallan Liath Coire Mhic Dhughaill
Beinn Iaruinn
Cranstackie
Cir Mhor
Clisham
Am Bathach
Cairnsmore of Carsphairn
Beinn Dronaig
Beinn Mhic-Mhonaidh
Mam na Gualainn [Notes]
Sgurr an Utha
Beinn Bhan
Sgurr Coire Choinnichean
Carn Ealasaid
Sgurr a'Chaorachain
Beinn Leoid
Beinn Airigh Charr
Druim nan Cnamh, Beinn Loinne
Auchnafree Hill
Glas Bheinn [Notes]
Meall Dubh
Meall Tairneachan
The Brack
Beinn a'Chaisteil
Arkle
Carn na Nathrach
Beinn na Caillich
Beinn an Oir
Beinn Mhic Cedidh
Sgurr Dubh
Corryhabbie Hill
Sgurr Mhic Bharraich
Ainshval
Farragon Hill
Meall nam Maigheach
Beinn Bheula
Mount Battock
Meall Horn
Sail Gorm, Quinag
Glas Bheinn
Meall na Leitreach
Sgorr Craobh a'Chaorainn
Glamaig
Meall a'Phubuill
Beinn nan Caorach
Meall Lighiche
Beinn Spionnaidh
Beinn Stacath (formerly Stob Fear-tomhais)
Beinn a' Choin
Stob a'Bhealach an Sgriodain
Stob Coire a'Chearcaill
Meallach Mhor
Cul Beag
Shalloch on Minnoch
Carn Dearg [S of Gleann Eachach]
Sail Mhor
Fuar Bheinn
Beinn Liath Mhor a'Ghiubhais Li
Dun da Ghaoithe
Braigh nan Uamhachan
Meall an Fhudair
Little Wyvis
Spidean Coinich, Quinag
Ben Loyal
Beinn na h-Uamha


OP The Lemming 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

That's nice, so you've learnt to cut and paste?

Or you are just boasting?

Yes we've all done quite a few hills/mountains any cance of narrowing your comprehensive list?
 VisionSet 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

So good you posted them twice eh?
 Dave Murphy 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

mam tor
 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to VisionSet:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir)
>
> So good you posted them twice eh?

Some hills in Scotland have the same name as others, that may have confused you, either that or you know hee haw about Scottish hills.
 coinneach 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

What about Misty Law then?



lightweight
In reply to The Lemming: Lets cut through the crap, hills, mountains. There is no scientific demarcation. They are all hills or mountains just some are higher than others. Some are more beautiful than others, some have better views.

Beinn Dearg in Torridon isnt that beautiful, its not even big enough to be a munro but its the best place to sit in peace and view all the other majesties in Torridon.
Yrmenlaf 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Blencathra is a very nice hill (It has a nice name too: does anyone know the derivation?)

Wild Boar Fell has many fond memories for me

Some of the Arran hills - Chir Mhor, for example - are very fine, IMHO. And Clisham (on Harris) is one I remember well.

Don't know Wales that well.

Y.
Yrmenlaf 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Fawksey:

Seconded.

Y.
morphus 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir: delete your posts immediately- they are clogging up my`bandwidth. this is a thread about English hills
 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to coinneach:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir)
>
> What about Misty Law then?

On a clear day I can see it out of my window.
In reply to coinneach: I may be totally on the wrong path but isnt that coineach, the bloody great gendarme if you try to get to Ladher beinn in Knoydart from the bothy at Barrisdale bay?
 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to morphus:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir) delete your posts immediately- they are clogging up my`bandwidth. this is a thread about English hills

Do you not understand English? One of the OP's question was "Please feel free to give your fave hill for Scotland, Ireland or Wales as well"

I could not make my mind up for one hill for Scotland, so I listed just a few of them.
Removed User 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
I'm fair fond of Blencathra.
Wales, Tryfan
Scotland, I'm partial to an annual trip up The Cobbler, but my favourite has to be An Teallach.
morphus 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Roseberry Topping is a fine hill
 coinneach 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

It was the first "mountain" I ever climbed, on a school trip , when I was about 8.

Tomorrow, I'm hoping to climb my first mountain since my accident.

Strangely enough..............it looks like it might be Blencathra............
hugedyno 28 Jul 2007
OP The Lemming 28 Jul 2007
In reply to coinneach:

And which route do you intend to choose?
Yrmenlaf 28 Jul 2007
In reply to coinneach:

I hope you have a great day.

Y.
Removed User 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

Call yourself a mountaineer? You appear not to have climbed Arthur's Seat.
 coinneach 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Sharp Edge I hope!
 coinneach 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Yrmenlaf:
Thanks!
Removed User 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Yrmenlaf:

I forgot about the hills on Harris. I had a stunning day on some of them and could see St Kilda on the horizon, very spectacular.
OP The Lemming 28 Jul 2007
In reply to coinneach:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
>
> Sharp Edge I hope!

Then may I suggest comming down Hall's Fell Ridge?


You know it makes sence
Yrmenlaf 28 Jul 2007
In reply to coinneach:

I must admit that I prefer Hall's Fell personally.

Still, a fine day out whatever.

Y.
 Norrie Muir 28 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir)

> Yes we've all done quite a few hills/mountains

Although I've climbed a fair amount in the Lakes and Wales, I've never been to the top of a hill there. Sometime soon I'll do a hill in the Lakes, so I may take your recomendation.
Yrmenlaf 28 Jul 2007
In reply to Removed User:

I love it on the islands when you see clouds on the horizon, and have to re-adjust when you realise that they are more islands.

Remember on Arran you could see Kintyre, then Jura beyond looking like it was floating in the sky

Y.
OP The Lemming 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
Sometime soon I'll do a hill in the Lakes, so I may take your recomendation.

Its not the biggest by any stretch of the imagination seing as it only takes between one to one and a half hours to reach the top but it has a shape and beauty all of its own. Kind of like stac Polly, small but perfectly formed.

And if you can hit the summit at sunset. Well you get the picture.
 Norrie Muir 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir)
>
> And if you can hit the summit at sunset. Well you get the picture.

Thanks for that information, it sounds good.
 Norrie Muir 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Removed User:
> (In reply to Removed User Muir)
>
> Call yourself a mountaineer? You appear not to have climbed Arthur's Seat.

Give me a chance, I've still to do a lot of hills and climbs before I give up.
OP The Lemming 29 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty:

Yep, can't disagree there, Catbells does have a superb vantage point. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that that whole area is the finest in the Lakes. Probably with the exception of the Langdale Valley or getting your first ever glimps of Wasdale head.

There are some hills that simply make your jaw drop the first time you see them. And for me, they have been driving along Ranoch Moor and seeing Buachaeille Etive Mor or Seeing Stac Polly. But the hill that did give me goose bumps the first time I saw it was Tryfan because it was a sight so unexpected driving down the road. It reminded me more of a dinosaur roaming accross the valley.

But who could not have a tear in their eye the first time that they ever got their first glimps of the cuillins?
 Jamie Hageman 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Thorpe Cloud
 Fredt 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

I like Win Hill, because you can see it from loads of different places, with different shapes. It has a short steep thuggish ascent which is handy of an evening, and several gentler ones. On the summit you can see up and down Hope Valley, over Ladybower and up the Derwent Valley and up the Snake.

A beautifully shaped hill is Parkhouse, next to Chrome Hill, which complements it nicely.
 Al Evans 29 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty: I kindda like Skiddaw still, Catbells is good because it is so tiny. And Brown Willy just for its name
 sutty 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Fredt:

Good, now we are getting the hills that are not dwarfed by other larger ones. Win Hill, Lose Hill, Parkhouse, Shutlingsloe.

Every area will have a hill you can go to apart from the flatlands of the East and enjoy the view. Shropshire, Malvern, Box, all have something for the local to visit.
 Mikkel 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

First little camping trip i did in Scotland was up on Misty Law and Hill of Stake.
The view over Glasgow area is fantastic at night.
Not Remotely Foz 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

> Here is some of the hills that I have done and liked in Scotland:
A'Bhuidheanach Bheag

Strange place to start. I hope yourlist was in ascending order?!

If I could only climb one British hill before I died it would be Gillean, but then I haven't done 'em all so I could be wrong.
 Al Evans 29 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty: I kindda rate Thorpe Cloud.
 Al Evans 29 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty: I have a soft spot for Shutlingsloe, It is one of a very few fell races I ever won, and the fete there was lovely.
 Mystery Toad 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

uh....Benny Hill?
Salsbury Hill?
 2pints 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Always been a big fan of Ingleborough, whenever I drive past it on the way to the Lakes it just strikes me as being so big an imposing.
 Bob 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Al Evans:

Have you seen the panoramas on this site? - http://www.madaboutmountains.com/waipan.htm

boB
OP The Lemming 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Bob:

What an excellent link.

I just may have to change my mind to Helvellyn
 Rob Exile Ward 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: OK, here's a bit of a steal (and a cheat). Try the 'mountain' just outside Cardiff, Garth Hill - it must be a mountain because it's the one they made a film about, with Hugh Grant. The views are fantastic, from the snow capped Brecon Beacons to the north to the Bristol Channel, and the promised land of (English) Brean Down and Exmoor to the south! Worth walking or biking up if you're in this neck of the woods.
In reply to The Lemming:

When I was a little kid I used to look out of my bedroom window at the hill on the horizon and think "one day I'll climb that" and by the time I was eleven I had. It was called Whittenham Clumps.

Since then I've looked at bigger hills and had the same emotion many times.
 jim robertson 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Bheinn Goblach holds a place in my heart.
 sutty 29 Jul 2007
In reply to jim robertson:

Is that near Hampstead Heath, can't seem to find it in the list of English hills.;-P
In reply to The Lemming:

I think it's Great Gable really - for position at the central hub of the Lakes, far from any road. Two great classic crags high on its north and south sides, plus arguably the finest mountain view in England from Westmorland's Cairn, just below the summit, looking straight down Wasdale from a height of nearly 3000 ft.

Blencathra fine, but too close to the road and only very good on the south side. Yewbarrow, Fleetwith Pike, Harrison Stickle and Bowfell very fine, but not the greatest.
 jim robertson 29 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty:
> (In reply to jim robertson)
>
> Is that near Hampstead Heath, can't seem to find it in the list of English hills.;-P

lol. Amazing how easy it is to slip up.

 coinneach 29 Jul 2007
In reply to jim robertson:

And Blencathra it was.

By Sharp Edge and a fine day.

I'll reserve judgement on which is the "best" until I've climbed some more.
Tim Chappell 29 Jul 2007
In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

Great Gable, "far from any road", Gordon?

Huh?
In reply to Tim Chappell:

Far from any major through road, yes.
 toad 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: ok - Winter Hill (Rivington Pike) it isn't big, its not hard, it isn't even pretty, but it's the first hill I ever went up.

I could see it from home when I was a kid, and before it got prettified and safetied, the Lever Garden type area was a fantastic jungle of odd derelict follies - a real valley of the dinosaurs when I was 8. You knew it was winter when the first snows could be seen on it, and when you got up by the TV mast, you realised you were the highest person in the world, or at least the greater Bolton area.

I never went back as an adult. It wouldn't exist anymore, better to see it off the M61 and remember where the Worlds finest hill is.
In reply to Tim Chappell:

Or, to put it more simply, far from any major or B road.
 jamal 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Surely every climbers favourite hill is ron.
 cathsullivan 29 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

I particularly like Pike O' Blisco.
Tim Chappell 30 Jul 2007


Winter Hill? Used to run up that as rugby training. What an odd place it is. The top is an unappetising acid-rained tussock marsh with all those masts on it. It's long, it's low, it's fat, it's useless. On any objective view, it's a deeply boring hill. And yet... yes, it does have a certain crazy something. Perhaps you have to be a Bolt to get it...

Pendle Hill's a bit the same only with more pointiness, no masts, and a better view of Pen Y Ghent. Oh, and a tourist industry.
Tim Chappell 30 Jul 2007
In reply to Tim Chappell:


PS On the OP's question: I think the trouble with all worthwhile Lake District hills is they're just too damn busy, not big enough, and full of people engaged in very strange forms of overkill.

E.g.:

1. Last time I went up Scafell Pike (from Eskdale it was; beautiful July day) I had running shorts and trainers on and no kit at all except my car keys, and some numpty with waterproofs, rucksack and map-case stopped me just above Throstle Garth with a disapproving you're-underequipped look in his eye to give me a five-minute route lecture. (Five minutes was as much as I gave him before smiliing politely and running off while he was still in mid-sentence.)

2. Last time I went up Blencathra people were using *a rope* on the ridgey bit of Hall's Fell, which I skipped up in about 10 minutes thinking "OK, the exciting bit must be coming soon... oh, that was it, was it?"

Tim Chappell 30 Jul 2007
OK, my list of best hills in England... defined as the ones I've most enjoyed/ enjoy walking up...

1. Hampsfell (between Grange over Sands and Cartmel)

2. Ingleborough

3. Holcombe Hill (Ramsbottom, Lancs)

4. Pendle Hill (also good to cycle up)

5. Pen Y Ghent

6. Scafell Pike

7. Pillar (via Looking Stead and the Rock)

8. Gummer's How

9. Humphrey Head (between Grange and Flookburgh)

10. The hill with Brimham Rocks at the top of it
 sutty 30 Jul 2007
In reply to Tim Chappell:

The hill you first had an adventure on, the one you took a GF up, the one you had your first view of the wider world when you live in a town are all good.

This was our first bike ride, five miles from our house with one person on a three wheeler they were that young;

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2055

 tony 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

My favourite hill in England is Bleaklow. It's not a particularly attractive hill, being a large lump of peat, but it was virtually on my back doorstep when I lived in Glossop and it used to make a pleasant evening stroll in the spring and summer. I have particularly fond memories of the sound of skylarks twittering overhead, and ever since then, the sound of skylarks has been a reminder that despite all the rubbish in the world, there are simple good things which make the crap easier to deal with.

My favourite Scottish hill is Stac Pollaidh. It's only little, but pretty much everything about it is right - it's in a great location, the views from the top are fantastic, and there's some interesting scrambling to get to the summit.

I don't have a favourite Welsh hill really. It always rains when I go to North Wales, and the hills in the south are a bit unexciting. The few I've been on in mod-Wales were a bit dull too, as I recall, although they do have remoteness on their side.
Tim Chappell 30 Jul 2007
In reply to tony:

My favourite Welsh hill is Carn Fadrun, in the Lleyn, with a hill fort on it. Must be 30 years since I was last there...
 220bpm 30 Jul 2007
In reply to VisionSet:
> (In reply to biped)
>
> In scotland for me it is Liathach, but agree the buckle runs it close.

An Teallach for me, #1 in my books.
 SteveD 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
> (In reply to Bob)
>
> What an excellent link.
>
> I just may have to change my mind to Helvellyn

I like Helvellyn, mainly due to great memories.
First winter route (at night!)
First rescue - OK I was just there to carry the heavy stuff, but still
First hill I took my daughter up
First time on nordic skis.
lying on the top at 2 in the morning watching the perseids with a bunch of YTS kids.

Steve D
J1234 30 Jul 2007
In reply to Tim Chappell:
> OK, my list of best hills in England... defined as the ones I've most enjoyed/ enjoy walking up...
>
> 1. Hampsfell (between Grange over Sands and Cartmel)
>
Went up to the Hospice the other week, and been reccomending since
> 2. Ingleborough
My first hill after a serious ilness
>
> 3. Holcombe Hill (Ramsbottom, Lancs)
>
My first hill, my gran used to take me up every Saturday
> 4. Pendle Hill (also good to cycle up)
Go up it regular
>
> 5. Pen Y Ghent
>
My daughters 1st "mountain"
> 6. Scafell Pike
>
A bore
> 7. Pillar (via Looking Stead and the Rock)
>
One of my best ever hill days
> 8. Gummer's How
>
Good memories.
> 9. Humphrey Head (between Grange and Flookburgh)
>
Sounds like i`ll have to go up it
> 10. The hill with Brimham Rocks at the top of it
I like Brimham to.

 Al Evans 30 Jul 2007
In reply to J1234: Humphrey Head, a hill?
J1234 30 Jul 2007
In reply to Al Evans:
I don`t know? Ask Tim it`s him who said it.
 Ridge 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Sale fell, looking towards Skiddaw. I can run up it, Me and Mrs Ridge often have a picnic on top after work, and the views are as stunning as any from the higher tops in the Lakes.
 pepperpot 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Tryfan! Just like an 8 year old would draw a mountain. Rocky and pointy. A climbing frame for grown-ups.
 S Andrew 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Eponymous
J1234 30 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty:
Does to me. Mountains or molehills a summit is a summit.
Yrmenlaf 30 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

If Blencathra has a fault, it is that there is not a rock-climb that will deposit me near the summit.

Y.
Stalky 31 Jul 2007
In reply to pepperpot: I don't think Tryfan is in England.
 hutchm 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Stalky:

Gable, then Pillar, then Blencathra - the A66 spoils it a little.
 Trangia 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

I think the Malverns are a lovely little range.
Anonymous 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

Dear Norrie,

please do not choose Cross Fell as it is not even in the Lake District and too many people know abou it already.

In the Lakes I'd recommend as a hill the entire High Street range from the top of Ullswater down to Troutbeck, as it is over 10 miles of hill
 helix 31 Jul 2007
I think Gable for me too. Looks like a proper mountain from most sides, unlike something like Bowfell which is little more than a bump on a ridge. Lots of good ways up and down, including walks, scrambles and climbs. Central position gives great views of Lakes. Fantastic position at head of Wasdale giving spectacular views of it and from it. Accessible from other valleys too. And I like the memorial.
 sutty 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Anonymous:

Quiet, keep that one to those who know, though a lot of MTB people were doing it a few years ago till stopped. One of the nicest days out when I worked at Troutbeck YHA.
In reply to sutty: When did you work there? I was at Patterdale for a while. 99 I think
 Nick Selmes 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: England's finest hill: Blake Street.
 Kid Spatula 31 Jul 2007
Wales hmmm

Tryfan, Lliwedd, The Glyders, Crib Goch
Anonymous 31 Jul 2007
In reply to sutty:

yes, definitely something special about the weastern fringes - particularly when they are quiet - maybe the ghosts of the legionaries walking beside you?
Anonymous 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Anonymous:

oops Eastern fringes, misinformation is a wonderful thing
Gib 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Norrie Muir:

some more local hills for you;

garnet hill

maryhill

sighthill

In reply to Gib:

not to mention mount florida...
 Norrie Muir 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Gib:

There is a good view from Sandyhills.
 Norrie Muir 31 Jul 2007
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
> (In reply to Gib)
>
> not to mention mount florida...

And Mount Vernon.
In reply to Norrie Muir:

...yes, and mountblow. mountainous place, glasgow...

 Norrie Muir 31 Jul 2007
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:
> (In reply to Norrie Muir)
>
> ...yes, and mountblow. mountainous place, glasgow...

Mountblow is in Clydebank. Does Hillington count as a hill?
Not Remotely Foz 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Stalky:

> (In reply to pepperpot) I don't think Tryfan is in England.

I think it pretty much has been since Wales was incorporated into England in 1284.
In reply to Norrie Muir:

not sure. dont think scotstounhill should either, there's no hill there...
 Skyfall 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Interesting thread, thanks.

England - hom hum, probably Blencathra. Once you leave the A66 behind (an annoyance I agree), the entrance to the cwm bounded on the RHS by Sharp Edge and on the LHS by Scales Fell is is just so alpine in character. I always take people there as a 1st taster experience of proper "hills" and a good scramble. Never seems to disappoint.

Wales - Tryfan visually. Perhaps though it should be Llewidd because you can do a long route and "summit"?!

Scotland - Stac Pollaidh - small and perfectly formed. Superb in its isolation among the giants of the NW.

 Tony the Blade 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Jimmy


Don't know if it's been said (can't be arsed to read all the thread)
 Trangia 31 Jul 2007
In reply to JonC:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
>
> Interesting thread, thanks.
>
>
> Wales - Tryfan visually. Perhaps though it should be Llewidd because you can do a long route and "summit"?!
>
Actually the classic view of Snowdon from the Capel Curig road looks pretty good
Anita 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
Must admit Blencathra would be high up on my list too, if you can take a collection the LAngdale Pikes are pretty good (though a bit busy), amazed no one has said Cheviot yet ; )
Wales - not done too much there though Tryvan was good, like Moel Siabod as well.
Scotland - too many for many different reasons, though top of the list for 'looks good but not done it yet' would be Sgurr na ciche.
Tim Chappell 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Al Evans:
> (In reply to bedspring) Humphrey Head, a hill?


Its diminutive size is part of the charm

It also has some seriously bitching limestone
Tim Chappell 31 Jul 2007
In reply to J1234:
> (
> [...]
> A bore
>

There are non-boring ways up Scafell Pike. Go up the top of Eskdale-- the nearest thing in the Lakes to a proper wilderness. Go straight up Ill Crag by the full-onest scrambling route you can cope with. Then top out. The tourist path may be as dull as an evening with John Major, but this way up rocks.
Clauso 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Damon Hill took some beating.
 sutty 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Tim Chappell:

THIS is proper wilderness in the lakes, one of our crappiest days out there. thick mist over boggy and tussocky ground.;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=310005&Y=510915&A=Y&...
 Marc C 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming: No finer view than Caer Caradoc & The Lawley in the evening sun. I'm talking Church Stretton hills (Shropshire) btw.
 newhey 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Marc C:

You traitor. Surely England's finest hill is Blackstone Edge.
 Marc C 31 Jul 2007
In reply to newhey: Well it was a toss up between Caer Caradoc, Ben Blackstone and Sgurr Lumbutt
 newhey 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Marc C:

On a more serious note, I would have:
Mickle Fell - great fun dodging the mortars and artillery
Dufton Pike - for being quite pointy
Mow Cop - Englands Inn Pinn.
Bardsey Island - for easy access
Foel Grach - for the lovely pokey bothy next to the summit
OP The Lemming 31 Jul 2007
In reply to newhey:
> (In reply to Marc C)

> Foel Grach - for the lovely pokey bothy next to the summit

I second that!

I remember three of us getting there one bloody awful night to find no room at the inn. Thankfully I had a tent so that two of us could kip in that and I'm glad that I did because the occupants, including my mate, had smelly bowels.

Nice little hill

 newhey 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

I went up Foel Grach yesterday, but nearly didnt make it. The bilberries are amazing this year, never seen so many. I still cant get the purple marks off my fingers!

It was nice to bump into the fell ponies on the way down to Dulyn. They have a rather gorgeous little foal at the moment.
What a splendid part of the world.
Tim Chappell 31 Jul 2007

Yeah, I'd love to go there-- not that England stands a chance against Scotland in the "thick mist over boggy and tussocky ground" stakes. Or against Wales.
 Marc C 31 Jul 2007
In reply to newhey: Hillary of Everest, Newhey of Foel Grach - says it all
 newhey 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Marc C:

At least I dont have a woman's name.
Are you still in training for that boring fell run?
 Marc C 31 Jul 2007
In reply to newhey: Boring hill run? Well that's one way of describing the 'All 8'000m's in a day' fell-run!
 newhey 31 Jul 2007
In reply to Marc C:

Fancy joining me on a real highball/DWS challenge next year.
http://www.island-cruising.com/gallery/pages/Stac%20an%20Armin.htm

Could do with a decent climber, which as you know I aint.
 Fredt 31 Jul 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

When in Scotland, I can never resist a good Pap.
 Marc C 31 Jul 2007
In reply to newhey: Wow! Looks cool Email me any details.
 pepperpot 01 Aug 2007
In reply to Stalky:

Good point. It should be though! Nearer to my house would be quite cool.
scottiedog 04 Aug 2007
In reply to Trangia:

I agree . Quite steep and shapely! And dry underfoot when all around is under water!
wcdave 04 Aug 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Beinn Dearg Mor.
Fat Bumbly Mk2 04 Aug 2007
In reply to The Lemming:
Staying on topic:
Scafell - Easy, any hill with a crag like that!

Will not get drawn in over the better stuff in a neighbouring country.
dragon_empress 06 Aug 2007
In reply to The Lemming: Belncathra is gorgeous, but, for me, has to be Ingleborough- you do the 3 peaks, get to the top of that, and look all around you, seeing pen-y-ghent, ribblehead viaduct and whernside, and you thing, wow, I'm crazy, cos I just walked all that way, and it was totally worth it. The slog down off it, however, does dampen the spirits a bit
 Greenbanks 06 Aug 2007
In reply to The Lemming:

Cnicht
Tryfan (again)
Weatherlam
Pavey Ark

all worth a shout

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