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What programme do you use to shrink photos to put on UKC?/Which is the easiest to use?
Help me!!
Help me!!
In reply to Flicka: irfanview - free, easy to use.
In reply to CJD:
Ok, it's the one I already have downloaded. But the problem I am having is that I can't get the photos to scale down to the right size. They are always too big or too small. Can you tell me what settings would work by any chance?
Ok, it's the one I already have downloaded. But the problem I am having is that I can't get the photos to scale down to the right size. They are always too big or too small. Can you tell me what settings would work by any chance?
In reply to Flicka: Have you tried 800 pixels at the longest side? And use Low to Medium 'quality' settings rather than the instinctive highest quality, if you are offered that.
In reply to Flicka: What are you using? remembering the 72 dpi for web?
In reply to Flicka: Dpi = Dots per inch (for standard web viewing)
In reply to Flicka:
Might be asking you 'photo resolution'.....you need to set it at 72 dpi, and jpeg.
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> Where do I fill that in?
What are you using to edit with?> Where do I fill that in?
Might be asking you 'photo resolution'.....you need to set it at 72 dpi, and jpeg.
In reply to dek:
All I'm doing is trying to use irfan view to shrink my photos enough but not too much. I use "batch conversion". I end up with a headache!
All I'm doing is trying to use irfan view to shrink my photos enough but not too much. I use "batch conversion". I end up with a headache!
In reply to Flicka:
If you go to Image/resize , make sure the tick at bottom left in 'preserve aspect ratio' is ticked. In 'set new size' put 740 as the width - if it landscape orientation, or 550 if portrait, then 'OK'.
The do a series of 'save as', making sure the 'show options dialog' (middle of box at bottom) is ticked. Alter the 'save quality' down from 100% in 10% steps until you get a file below 120Kb.
Bit laborious but works for me.
Mike
If you go to Image/resize , make sure the tick at bottom left in 'preserve aspect ratio' is ticked. In 'set new size' put 740 as the width - if it landscape orientation, or 550 if portrait, then 'OK'.
The do a series of 'save as', making sure the 'show options dialog' (middle of box at bottom) is ticked. Alter the 'save quality' down from 100% in 10% steps until you get a file below 120Kb.
Bit laborious but works for me.
Mike
In reply to Flicka: Hmm. i'm not familiar with that one! How many are you working on and uploading at one time? Also are you using a duplicate of the original pic then reducing that and saving it as a small pic 120Kb or less?
In reply to pog100:
PS once you have found the right settings, you can do the same with batch conversion. Make sure you have 'advanced options' on, make sure the preserve aspect ratio is ticked.
PS once you have found the right settings, you can do the same with batch conversion. Make sure you have 'advanced options' on, make sure the preserve aspect ratio is ticked.
In reply to Flicka:
seems like you're getting there but check out
http://www.osalt.com/
if you're after lots of other free (:->) software, it lists lots of popular commercial packages and gives their open source alternative. I use a whole range of them for work (being a fifer who hates spending money) - loads of great stuff around and not just for graphics. downside of course is trying out loads of them to find one that suits you :-<
have fun
neil
seems like you're getting there but check out
http://www.osalt.com/
if you're after lots of other free (:->) software, it lists lots of popular commercial packages and gives their open source alternative. I use a whole range of them for work (being a fifer who hates spending money) - loads of great stuff around and not just for graphics. downside of course is trying out loads of them to find one that suits you :-<
have fun
neil
In reply to ng1273:
I wish...all I got for my troubles tonight is a headache. Have given up for the evening. Yet again! Bah. Lol!
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> seems like you're getting there but check out
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> seems like you're getting there but check out
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I wish...all I got for my troubles tonight is a headache. Have given up for the evening. Yet again! Bah. Lol!
In reply to Flicka:
> (In reply to ng1273)
> I wish...all I got for my troubles tonight is a headache. Have given up for the evening. Yet again! Bah. Lol!
Know what you mean, i can get old scanned photos up, but not the modern digi camera efforts to appear?! > I wish...all I got for my troubles tonight is a headache. Have given up for the evening. Yet again! Bah. Lol!
In reply to Flicka:
Using Irfanview:
1) Choose File then Batch Conversion/Rename
Then working Down the dialog box
2) Choose the files you want to resize and drag to the left-hand box
3) Make sure you set an output directory different to where the original files are (to avoid overwriting your originals)
4) Choose Batch Conversion.
5) Set output format to JPG. you can change the quality level by clicking options I think the defaul is 80% and this ought to be fine.
6) Select "Use advanced options" and click the set advanced options button. Select "Resize", "Set new size", "Set long side to" and type in 800. make sure "preserve aspect ratio" is selected. and click "ok"
7) Click "Start"
When i tried this i cam out with a size of about 60kb which is fine for ukc (don't worry that it's slightly lower than the size mentioned in the upload guide it'll still be fine in the small size people view at on here)
Using Irfanview:
1) Choose File then Batch Conversion/Rename
Then working Down the dialog box
2) Choose the files you want to resize and drag to the left-hand box
3) Make sure you set an output directory different to where the original files are (to avoid overwriting your originals)
4) Choose Batch Conversion.
5) Set output format to JPG. you can change the quality level by clicking options I think the defaul is 80% and this ought to be fine.
6) Select "Use advanced options" and click the set advanced options button. Select "Resize", "Set new size", "Set long side to" and type in 800. make sure "preserve aspect ratio" is selected. and click "ok"
7) Click "Start"
When i tried this i cam out with a size of about 60kb which is fine for ukc (don't worry that it's slightly lower than the size mentioned in the upload guide it'll still be fine in the small size people view at on here)
In reply to taine:
i believe that once you've done this once it will remember the settings so you can just run it straight off next time
i believe that once you've done this once it will remember the settings so you can just run it straight off next time
In reply to Flicka:
The problem with photo compression is that the filesize at the end relates to the amount of detail in the photo. A photo with a huge amount of blue sky will compress much smaller than a photo with lots of detail in it, even though they are both the same number of pixels high and wide.
So batch conversion using Ifranview is possibly not a good idea, as it doesn't - as I recall - have an option to set the filesize of the output. only the physical size.
> All I'm doing is trying to use irfan view to shrink my photos enough but not too much. I use "batch conversion". I end up with a headache!
The problem with photo compression is that the filesize at the end relates to the amount of detail in the photo. A photo with a huge amount of blue sky will compress much smaller than a photo with lots of detail in it, even though they are both the same number of pixels high and wide.
So batch conversion using Ifranview is possibly not a good idea, as it doesn't - as I recall - have an option to set the filesize of the output. only the physical size.
In reply to Flicka:
Maybe Picasa?
I use Irfanview, but then again I don't do batch convert because of the limitation I described above, and I want to treat each piccy individually.
Maybe Picasa?
I use Irfanview, but then again I don't do batch convert because of the limitation I described above, and I want to treat each piccy individually.
In reply to Flicka:
I just experimented with a range of pics using the method i just outlined. out of 60 pics just one came over the size limit. I would recommend either using that method and accepting you might have t manually make the odd one a little smaller or use that method and reduce the image height and jpeg quality paramters a little.
I just experimented with a range of pics using the method i just outlined. out of 60 pics just one came over the size limit. I would recommend either using that method and accepting you might have t manually make the odd one a little smaller or use that method and reduce the image height and jpeg quality paramters a little.
In reply to Flicka: Do em one at a time......it will certainly make you think whether you REALLY want to upload it
I find 800X600 with medium quality is a good starting point. As others have said, keep aspect ratio on is a must. Persevere, its not really that hard.....and when you've got one right, the rest will be easy...
I find 800X600 with medium quality is a good starting point. As others have said, keep aspect ratio on is a must. Persevere, its not really that hard.....and when you've got one right, the rest will be easy...
In reply to Dr Avid:
i think this is your choice either one at a time or the batch conversion and accept that the odd one might need fiddling. (someone will be along in a minute to tell you that lightroom can do it all for you easily but that costs loadsa money!)
i think this is your choice either one at a time or the batch conversion and accept that the odd one might need fiddling. (someone will be along in a minute to tell you that lightroom can do it all for you easily but that costs loadsa money!)
In reply to pog100:
Agree, thats how I do it, but make sure you 'save as' a new name or you will lose the original.
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> If you go to Image/resize , make sure the tick at bottom left in 'preserve aspect ratio' is ticked. In 'set new size' put 740 as the width - if it landscape orientation, or 550 if portrait, then 'OK'.
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> The do a series of 'save as', making sure the 'show options dialog' (middle of box at bottom) is ticked. Alter the 'save quality' down from 100% in 10% steps until you get a file below 120Kb.
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> Bit laborious but works for me.
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> Mike
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> If you go to Image/resize , make sure the tick at bottom left in 'preserve aspect ratio' is ticked. In 'set new size' put 740 as the width - if it landscape orientation, or 550 if portrait, then 'OK'.
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> The do a series of 'save as', making sure the 'show options dialog' (middle of box at bottom) is ticked. Alter the 'save quality' down from 100% in 10% steps until you get a file below 120Kb.
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> Bit laborious but works for me.
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> Mike
Agree, thats how I do it, but make sure you 'save as' a new name or you will lose the original.
In reply to Dr Avid:
But the maximum size permitted is 750 isn't it?
> (In reply to Flicka) Do em one at a time......it will certainly make you think whether you REALLY want to upload it
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> I find 800X600 with medium quality is a good starting point. As others have said, keep aspect ratio on is a must. Persevere, its not really that hard.....and when you've got one right, the rest will be easy...
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> I find 800X600 with medium quality is a good starting point. As others have said, keep aspect ratio on is a must. Persevere, its not really that hard.....and when you've got one right, the rest will be easy...
But the maximum size permitted is 750 isn't it?
In reply to Al Evans:
Or of course work on a duplicate to start with.
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> Agree, thats how I do it, but make sure you 'save as' a new name or you will lose the original.
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> Agree, thats how I do it, but make sure you 'save as' a new name or you will lose the original.
Or of course work on a duplicate to start with.
In reply to Al Evans:
There are loads of panoramic views wider than that eg. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=80161
which is 1200 wide
> But the maximum size permitted is 750 isn't it?
There are loads of panoramic views wider than that eg. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=80161
which is 1200 wide
In reply to Flicka:
don't worry about dpi. it is a printing term and dpi information is irrevelent when saving images for web display use only as monitors work in absolute pixel width.
quite simply using irfanview set your images to say around 500/600 pixels on their longest axis and save as a jpeg. It will provide a box to specify the level of compression, on a %age scale. around 85-90% will get most images down enough in file size.
don't worry about dpi. it is a printing term and dpi information is irrevelent when saving images for web display use only as monitors work in absolute pixel width.
quite simply using irfanview set your images to say around 500/600 pixels on their longest axis and save as a jpeg. It will provide a box to specify the level of compression, on a %age scale. around 85-90% will get most images down enough in file size.
In reply to erikb56: hooray! An accurate simple description of the process. Mind you, I think these days 500/600 is a bit miserly, I work on 800 minimum for UKC but I do keep the filesizes down.
In reply to Flicka:
Use paint.net. Its free, easy to use, and a bit lite Windows Paint on steroids!
Some of the functionality comes as modules.
To resize choose Image -> Resize.
After resizing you often get a "fuzzy" image. Choose Effects -> Sharpen to fix.
To adjust the exposure choose Adjustment -> levels -> then fiddle with the vertical "output" bar.
Use paint.net. Its free, easy to use, and a bit lite Windows Paint on steroids!
Some of the functionality comes as modules.
To resize choose Image -> Resize.
After resizing you often get a "fuzzy" image. Choose Effects -> Sharpen to fix.
To adjust the exposure choose Adjustment -> levels -> then fiddle with the vertical "output" bar.
In reply to Dominion:
I quote from the text, max is 800 high if portrait, 750 wide if landscape?
"Please only submit JPEG (.JPG) images, and make sure they are a sensible resolution for viewing on a normal screen. eg,
- landscape (wide) between 375-750 pixels wide by 280-560 pixels high
- portrait (tall) between 300-600 pixels wide by 400-800 pixels high
Use your graphics software to resize/resample scanned or digital photos down to these sizes.
We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb. Read the article linked above for help doing this. A smaller file will look 'blocky'.
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> There are loads of panoramic views wider than that eg. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=80161
> which is 1200 wide
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> There are loads of panoramic views wider than that eg. http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=80161
> which is 1200 wide
I quote from the text, max is 800 high if portrait, 750 wide if landscape?
"Please only submit JPEG (.JPG) images, and make sure they are a sensible resolution for viewing on a normal screen. eg,
- landscape (wide) between 375-750 pixels wide by 280-560 pixels high
- portrait (tall) between 300-600 pixels wide by 400-800 pixels high
Use your graphics software to resize/resample scanned or digital photos down to these sizes.
We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb. Read the article linked above for help doing this. A smaller file will look 'blocky'.
In reply to Al Evans: Incidently
"We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb."
I have had file sizes of 121kb refused!
"We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb."
I have had file sizes of 121kb refused!
In reply to Al Evans:
the upload script will likely have a parameter which specifies maximum file size. if you exceed this it will reject even if by one byte.
> (In reply to Al Evans) Incidently
> "We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb."
> I have had file sizes of 121kb refused!
> "We recommend a file size of between 70kb and 120kb."
> I have had file sizes of 121kb refused!
the upload script will likely have a parameter which specifies maximum file size. if you exceed this it will reject even if by one byte.
In reply to Flicka: another vote for ifrfanview, it's great!
In reply to Al Evans:
I just use paint and scale the image down to 25% of orignal size. This works for images from my camera (7.1 Megapixel camera)
I just use paint and scale the image down to 25% of orignal size. This works for images from my camera (7.1 Megapixel camera)
In reply to Flicka: I use irfanview. It was free, and recommended to me by CJD.
In reply to Al Evans: I would have thought an image size of 800x600 would be considered as a sensible size for viewing. The 120kb limit keeps the image sizes down to reasonable dimensions anyway, so I'm not going to start worrying about pictures being too big.....
In reply to Flicka:
What a useful thread! I've been faffing about for months trying to get my pix up on ukc. Can never get the size right. Thanks all.
What a useful thread! I've been faffing about for months trying to get my pix up on ukc. Can never get the size right. Thanks all.
In reply to Al Evans:
The 120Kb limit is enforced, the width/height size limit isn't.
I've also had several rejected as being too small in file size!
The 120Kb limit is enforced, the width/height size limit isn't.
I've also had several rejected as being too small in file size!
In reply to Al Evans:
Yeah, Al, I know all that, I even went and checked what it said before I posted.
But the fact remains that the physical size in pixels appears to be a recommendation, guideline or hint - not an enforced limit. I have a photo of some water under Killin Bridge that is 900 wide x 675 high.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=16456
Whereas the filesize in bytes is limited, and you cannot exceed it. Although, if you download that photo to your compute, and check the filesize, it's 127827bytes, or 124.8Kb
Yeah, Al, I know all that, I even went and checked what it said before I posted.
But the fact remains that the physical size in pixels appears to be a recommendation, guideline or hint - not an enforced limit. I have a photo of some water under Killin Bridge that is 900 wide x 675 high.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=16456
Whereas the filesize in bytes is limited, and you cannot exceed it. Although, if you download that photo to your compute, and check the filesize, it's 127827bytes, or 124.8Kb
In reply to Dominion:
I've got loads of wide panoramas. I think this is the biggest, 2986 pixels (but only 115Kb)
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=35908
I've got loads of wide panoramas. I think this is the biggest, 2986 pixels (but only 115Kb)
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=35908
In reply to Flicka: How about image resizer, really easy to use.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/learnmore/tips/...
Download:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/ImageRe...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/learnmore/tips/...
Download:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/ImageRe...
In reply to Flicka: even the Microsoft one is adequate to reduce pixel size
In reply to Toreador: So come on mods, how do you square this with your guidelines, you give a 'max' size that you then dont stick to, and a 'recommended' kb size that you then impose rigorously?
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