In reply to Nigel Modern:
> (In reply to Rob Exile Ward) The problem is I don't really want to discipline him...I want to go climbing and then down the pub with him...and then sort it out...guess I'll have to wait a bit.
You'd be better trying to explain why your setting limits for time
for him to get back home including the why you'll get grief from his
mum, it doesn't sound like you have a major problem with him so i'm sure he'll listen to reason. Maybe you need to re-assess what time he needs to come home for,maybe you are being too protective.
I don't let my 14,5 year old out on the streets at all after 9pm she
doesn't see it as a issue though, she knows some of the trouble that goes on withy youngsters locally and understands we want he to be kept away from it, as consolation she is allowed to have a lot of seepovers here and at her friends where they can stay awake (or at least try to) as long as they like on a Saturday night as long as they aren't keeping anyon else up.They generally succumb at the back of 11pm after the first few times when the novelty wears off.I soem times take her and a friend climbing and the fact they are worn out by the time we get home makes for a very peaceful night.