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We have made some big changes to UKC over the last month including appointing a new Assistant Editor - Kevin Avery, and today we have rolled out the first pages in an overall site redesign that we are undertaking.
Kevin Avery - Assistant Editor
Kevin has been writing a few destination articles for us over the last few months. We are very pleased to welcome Kevin onto the team on a more permanent basis where he will be concentrating on producing more Destination Articles both as an author, but also as an editor for user-submitted articles.
Examples of two of Kevin's latest Destination Articles in the new article format:
Kilnsey - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1464
Ilkley and Rocky Valley - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1486
If you wish to produce a Destination Article for UKC then you can submit it to Kevin using this page - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/send.html
The full current UKClimbing.com team are listed here - http://www.ukclimbing.com/general/about.html
Articles - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
We have started with phase one of a site redesign by upgrading the main UKC Articles pages to make it more user-friendly and easier to locate your chosen article. The articles themselves are now a lot more sophisticated.
Example of a new article layout :
http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1474
Photos Page - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
The main UKC Photos page has also been changed to offer more information, plus better thumbnails of existing shots.
What Next?
We have some more changes to the Articles system to finish off first, including 'pop-in' photos, then we will move onto the UKC News page, and finally the Home Page. All these improvements are intended to make the UKC browsing experience much easier and more pleasant.
If you have any feedback on the new look then please let us know via this thread.
Thanks
Alan, UKC
Kevin Avery - Assistant Editor
Kevin has been writing a few destination articles for us over the last few months. We are very pleased to welcome Kevin onto the team on a more permanent basis where he will be concentrating on producing more Destination Articles both as an author, but also as an editor for user-submitted articles.
Examples of two of Kevin's latest Destination Articles in the new article format:
Kilnsey - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1464
Ilkley and Rocky Valley - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1486
If you wish to produce a Destination Article for UKC then you can submit it to Kevin using this page - http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/send.html
The full current UKClimbing.com team are listed here - http://www.ukclimbing.com/general/about.html
Articles - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
We have started with phase one of a site redesign by upgrading the main UKC Articles pages to make it more user-friendly and easier to locate your chosen article. The articles themselves are now a lot more sophisticated.
Example of a new article layout :
http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=1474
Photos Page - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
The main UKC Photos page has also been changed to offer more information, plus better thumbnails of existing shots.
What Next?
We have some more changes to the Articles system to finish off first, including 'pop-in' photos, then we will move onto the UKC News page, and finally the Home Page. All these improvements are intended to make the UKC browsing experience much easier and more pleasant.
If you have any feedback on the new look then please let us know via this thread.
Thanks
Alan, UKC
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Articles - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
Photos Page - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
I seem to get a big bit of white space as two sections on these pages don't sit side by side??? (IE6)
Articles - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
Photos Page - New Look: http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
I seem to get a big bit of white space as two sections on these pages don't sit side by side??? (IE6)
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
I must admit after all that preamble I was perhaps expecting a little more from the redesign. Nevertheless, the changes do look useful and UKC has already improved markedly over the last few months so keep up the good work.
Unfortunately there does seems to be a slight formatting issue on the Photos Page for me (on IE6) whereby the bulk of the page is forced below the new pane on the right leaving a lot of empty space.
I must admit after all that preamble I was perhaps expecting a little more from the redesign. Nevertheless, the changes do look useful and UKC has already improved markedly over the last few months so keep up the good work.
Unfortunately there does seems to be a slight formatting issue on the Photos Page for me (on IE6) whereby the bulk of the page is forced below the new pane on the right leaving a lot of empty space.
In reply to JLS:
We have tested it on MSIE versions.
Have you refreshed a few times? You could be looking at the cached version of the old page, while having loaded the new style sheet. The new style sheet won't work with the old pages.
Alan
We have tested it on MSIE versions.
Have you refreshed a few times? You could be looking at the cached version of the old page, while having loaded the new style sheet. The new style sheet won't work with the old pages.
Alan
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Have force refreshed several times (Ctrl+F5) but still see the bar on the right of the screen with a large amount of whitespace to the left, then below this is the main content with white space to the right. (IE6 on win XP)
ALC
Have force refreshed several times (Ctrl+F5) but still see the bar on the right of the screen with a large amount of whitespace to the left, then below this is the main content with white space to the right. (IE6 on win XP)
ALC
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
I've deleted all my cached pages and refreshed, but no joy.
The + symbol next to the News this week photo seems to be just slightly too wide to fit in the space available.
I've deleted all my cached pages and refreshed, but no joy.
The + symbol next to the News this week photo seems to be just slightly too wide to fit in the space available.
In reply to chris_j_s:
Ok, that is very useful feedback. I think that could be the problem and I am sure Nick will solve this later (he's out now).
Has anyone got the same problem of white space on the Articles page?
Do all the people noticing this have particularly small screens?
Cheers
Alan
> The + symbol next to the News this week photo seems to be just slightly too wide to fit in the space available.
Ok, that is very useful feedback. I think that could be the problem and I am sure Nick will solve this later (he's out now).
Has anyone got the same problem of white space on the Articles page?
Do all the people noticing this have particularly small screens?
Cheers
Alan
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Screen resolution is 1280x1024 so not particularly small. Also it doesn't matter if I try to stretch or shrink the browser window. It's probably something to do with margins or padding in the CSS, IE6 is particularly awkward in this regard.
ALC
Screen resolution is 1280x1024 so not particularly small. Also it doesn't matter if I try to stretch or shrink the browser window. It's probably something to do with margins or padding in the CSS, IE6 is particularly awkward in this regard.
ALC
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
No I have a 19" flat screen at a resolution of 1280x1024 so I'm guessing the formatting is at least partially absolute rather than relative.
> (In reply to chris_j_s)
> Do all the people noticing this have particularly small screens?
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> Cheers
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> Alan
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> Cheers
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> Alan
No I have a 19" flat screen at a resolution of 1280x1024 so I'm guessing the formatting is at least partially absolute rather than relative.
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
I also get the same as others. (XP with IE6)
Screen resolution @ 1400x1050
I also get the same as others. (XP with IE6)
Screen resolution @ 1400x1050
In reply to chris_j_s:
What a geek - sorry to spout useless rubbish! I'm sure Nick will be onto it straight away.
> ...so I'm guessing the formatting is at least partially absolute rather than relative.
What a geek - sorry to spout useless rubbish! I'm sure Nick will be onto it straight away.
In reply to a lakeland climber:
Struggling to reproduce this despite testing on IE6 on Vista. I am sure Nick will offer soemthing.
I don't suppose you could try Firefox for me please?
Alan
> Screen resolution is 1280x1024 so not particularly small. Also it doesn't matter if I try to stretch or shrink the browser window. It's probably something to do with margins or padding in the CSS, IE6 is particularly awkward in this regard.
Struggling to reproduce this despite testing on IE6 on Vista. I am sure Nick will offer soemthing.
I don't suppose you could try Firefox for me please?
Alan
In reply to Alan James - UKC: I'm getting the same as ALC with IE6 and XP.
In reply to John_Hat:
Can someone on XP try Firefox for us please?
Cheers
Alan
(while you have it make it your default browser and you will never look back! Oh how much better place the web would be if people ditched Internet Explorer!)
Can someone on XP try Firefox for us please?
Cheers
Alan
(while you have it make it your default browser and you will never look back! Oh how much better place the web would be if people ditched Internet Explorer!)
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Photos page formatting problematic for me - IE6 @1280*1024
Again, looks like the + next to "New this week" is a tad too big.
Photos page formatting problematic for me - IE6 @1280*1024
Again, looks like the + next to "New this week" is a tad too big.
In reply to Alan James - UKC: Looks good in Google Chrome (on 1920 x 1200)
In reply to chris j: Note - with XP.
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
It's fine on XP in both Firefox and Chrome.
> Can someone on XP try Firefox for us please?
It's fine on XP in both Firefox and Chrome.
In reply to chris j: However trying to click to any of the three articles on the RHS of the photos page comes up with a 404 not found error.
In reply to Alan James - UKC: I tried Firefox for a while, but it couldn't cope properly with some of the web sites I need to access. Can't remember the details now, I'm afraid.
In reply to chris j:
They work if you click the photo, but not if you click the title. The hyperlink of the title is set to '.../photos/...' instead of '.../articles/...'
> However trying to click to any of the three articles on the RHS of the photos page comes up with a 404 not found error
They work if you click the photo, but not if you click the title. The hyperlink of the title is set to '.../photos/...' instead of '.../articles/...'
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Firefox on Windows 2000 is also fine.
> (In reply to John_Hat)
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> Can someone on XP try Firefox for us please?
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> Can someone on XP try Firefox for us please?
Firefox on Windows 2000 is also fine.
In reply to chris_j_s:
Having said that, I think the destination guides look great!
> (In reply to Alan James - UKC)
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> I must admit after all that preamble I was perhaps expecting a little more from the redesign. Nevertheless, the changes do look useful and UKC has already improved markedly over the last few months so keep up the good work.
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> I must admit after all that preamble I was perhaps expecting a little more from the redesign. Nevertheless, the changes do look useful and UKC has already improved markedly over the last few months so keep up the good work.
Having said that, I think the destination guides look great!
In reply to Toreador: Well spotted, thanks!
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Unfortunately don't have Firefox at work
A quick Look at the CSS (naughty, sorry!) and it seems as if the margin and padding and width values for the right-hand column combined are either exactly the margin plus right-padding for the left column or slightly bigger. Try reducing the padding on one of the colums by 1 pixel.
I've had this on similar designs looking right in everything but IE (no surprise there) and corrected/masked it by setting overflow to hidden but I don't think that is a suitable route for this layout and content.
ALC
Unfortunately don't have Firefox at work
A quick Look at the CSS (naughty, sorry!) and it seems as if the margin and padding and width values for the right-hand column combined are either exactly the margin plus right-padding for the left column or slightly bigger. Try reducing the padding on one of the colums by 1 pixel.
I've had this on similar designs looking right in everything but IE (no surprise there) and corrected/masked it by setting overflow to hidden but I don't think that is a suitable route for this layout and content.
ALC
In reply to a lakeland climber:
Thanks for that. I'll point Nick at this post when he gets back in.
Alan
Thanks for that. I'll point Nick at this post when he gets back in.
Alan
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
I had a similar problem recently on my site which A Lakeland Climber helped me out with. I solved that using the overflow:hidden command in the CSS which fixed the pages in IE6.
I had a similar problem recently on my site which A Lakeland Climber helped me out with. I solved that using the overflow:hidden command in the CSS which fixed the pages in IE6.
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Yes, good move. Don't know Kev (apart from goggling at his progress at Malham) but his own articles have been exemplars of good content, clarity and layout. A template for the rest of us.
Jack's done really well over the last year and I'm sure Kev will too. Good luck to him.
Mick
> We have made some big changes to UKC over the last month including appointing a new Assistant Editor - Kevin Avery...
Yes, good move. Don't know Kev (apart from goggling at his progress at Malham) but his own articles have been exemplars of good content, clarity and layout. A template for the rest of us.
Jack's done really well over the last year and I'm sure Kev will too. Good luck to him.
Mick
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
> (In reply to chris_j_s)
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> Has anyone got the same problem of white space on the Articles page?
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> Do all the people noticing this have particularly small screens?
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Hi i was just about to post saying that there seems to be alot of white space at the top of the destination article - and no not a very small screen (dell flat screen thing)> Has anyone got the same problem of white space on the Articles page?
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> Do all the people noticing this have particularly small screens?
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In reply to Toreador:
Many thanks, now fixed!
> They work if you click the photo, but not if you click the title. The hyperlink of the title is set to '.../photos/...' instead of '.../articles/...'
Many thanks, now fixed!
In reply to Nick Smith - UKC: XP and Google Chrome it works fine.
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
Alan, I have the same problem. IE6 on XP. Screen resolution is 1680 x 1050 so unlikely to be that.
Alan, I have the same problem. IE6 on XP. Screen resolution is 1680 x 1050 so unlikely to be that.
In reply to Masood: Thanks, I can reproduce the problem on IE6 and XP. All other browsers work fine, including IE7. I can create a version of the page that works with IE6, but then all the other browsers get it wrong... argh!
In reply to Nick Smith - UKC: The main articles and photos pages should now work correctly in IE6:
- http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
- http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
you may need to force reloading the pages with Ctrl+F5 or Shift+F5.
Cheers
- http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/
- http://www.ukclimbing.com/photos/
you may need to force reloading the pages with Ctrl+F5 or Shift+F5.
Cheers
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