UKC

In reply to James Edwards:

Ta

In reply to James Edwards:

Blimey, Russell brand and Jonathon Ross are off air so they bring in Andy K

In reply to James Edwards:

I think Libby was out of her depth there, either that or Andy didn't really tune in to the level that was required.

Alan

I don't do frilly chat really...

In reply to James Edwards:
Should be available here shortly also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/midweek.shtml

In reply to andy kirkpatrick: Did you get the autograph for Nick?? or should he start cutting the webbing on the portaledge?

In reply to James Edwards:


I wouldn't be able to get past Libby Purves I'm afraid. She's the personification of the tired,dated old institution that is Radio 4.
1950's style radio. Home Counties chattering classes discussing Greek Philosophers, Mini ISA's, Great Crested newts and worst of all. John Humphries believing that interviewing a politician consists of playing devil's advocate,ignoring the answer and repeating the question repeatedly but ratcheting up the shrill factor.

In reply to Jonno:

Sounds vaguely familiar

In reply to Jonno: Have you ever actually listened to radio 4?

In reply to James Edwards:

I had to grit my teeth to get through Libby Purves' simpering manner (which normally makes me want to burn my radio).

It was interesting, but I got the impression Andy was having to reign himself in. I much prefer his sweary flights of fancy and non sequiters.

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

No mention of Rape Tape then?

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

1. Has anyone ever told you it’s rude to interrupt?

2. Your answer to ‘Can you explain what it is you get from a hard climb?’

‘Err nothing at all really… It makes me appreciate grass, bread and a glass of water’

Something I might expect Chris Sharma to say.

I thought you might say something like 'climbing nourishes my soul'. It nourishes mine

3. Don’t go on about dyslexia so much.

4. Because I have given you such useful feedback can I have a copy of your book? Im really broke.


Ta

In reply to James Edwards:

If anyone wants to listen it is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00fzw3h and starts at 23.18 unless you want to hear them twittering on about robins etc.

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

I've just listened to this and really enjoyed it. I thought it came across well and there were some great one liners in there.

In reply to andy kirkpatrick: Well done Andy, shame she didn't want to let you talk about climbing much though. Hope you sell loads of books off the back of it.

The problem with the danger and death jokes is that climbers get them, and Radio4 interviewer types don't. They think all climbers everywhere risk their lives as soon as they step off the ground hence they lack the ability to differentiate between the different levels of danger in climbing/mountaineering.

When Andy said his bit about it taking you 28 seconds to hit the ground if you fell off, they probably thought that this event had a distinct possibility of happening at any moment. In actual fact it would only ever happen if he had untied from the system or managed to strip every piece of gear including te belay or something pretty catastrophic like that.

From Andy's point of view I can see how getting the subtlties of the different levels of danger completely impossible in a 5 minute radio interview with someone who hasn't got a clue.

Alan

Just did one on Radio world service which was much longer and far more relaxed (not sure when it's going out though?).

As for dislexia bit...yes I do go on about it, but it has a big effect on my life, the life of my kids, and the lives of many parents, and primerily what I have to say is very posative - as in don't let anyone tell you that this is a problem - it;s the best thing that can ever happen to you.

Also you have to rember that the majority of people who listened to that have never heard of me, and will hear from me again!

A

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

>"posative"

Positive Andy, positive with an I. Jeez...

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

Contrary to the previous poster I thought your comments on dyslexia were very interesting and didn't think you 'went on about it' too much at all.

(look at me, I am starting to sound like a groupie!)

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:
you've missed it- was on at 03:05
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/outlook/index.shtml

listen again..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/worldservice/meta/tx/outlook_wed?n...

In reply to James Edwards:

Trully painful to listen to. Terrible jokes, and it didn't seem like he understood it at all.

In reply to Alan James - UKC:

much better interviewer on the world service link.. (16min+)

In reply to andy kirkpatrick: I am pleased you have got positive things to say about your dyslexia, I work with young people and quite a few of them have it, it is good to be able to say to them that it is has a positive side.

In reply to Monk:

I didn't say it wasn't interesting. I think he (AK) got a bit muddled in his explanation and the 99% thing was confusing. It is not my intention to enter into an exchange about dyslexia so i shall leave it there.

Well done on the interview MR K. I do think your funny (mostly), and quite inspiring (mostly)

In reply to James Edwards:

haham, that was great. Laughing the whole time!

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

Lysdexia doesn't get the support or help it needs - it is still taken as another way of saying "well, he's a bit thick really". Anything that kicks away the pre-conceptions in others, and boosts the self-confidence of suffers is a good things. "Hey, that wierd climber guy with the funny accent is dyslexic too but he seem to have achieved stuff...".

In reply to The Bantam:

I think this is a slightly out-dated view now, certainly in decent schools. Dyslexia is taken very seriously at all levels nowadays and kids get plenty of support.

Alan

In reply to morphus: Thanks, listening now.

In reply to Alan James - UKC:

Ok, as i started this thread i feel i'm allowed to go of on a slight tangent.
Well, the problem with the Dyslexia thing is that it is many things that are lumped together and labled dyslexia and you could call it a spectrum but a 3d plot scatter graph would be more apt.
The term has also been hijacked slighlty by certain eliments of society as well to explain why little jonny/ jenny won't be getting into oxbridge like their parents did.
In my professional opinion (i'm an ex primary, secondary science and special needs teacher) dyslexia is actually taken TOO seriously by some institutions and in some cercumstances the labled kids kick back and coast through their education as a result and do badly. They can have all this world of support and understanding around them which suddenly disapears when they leave school / college or what ever and go into the world and we aren't doing them too many faviours if we don't address the wider picture before hand.

Man i feel like i'm back in the staff room again.

James e

In reply to felixthelion: i think he came accross a lot better in the world service one - but then he had more time to discuss things and was let alone to talk in the way he does rather than interruptions al la Radio 2.

I'm not sure about buying the book at the mo - times is tight pre-xmas, but did see his lecture (in kings lynn of all places) and was impressed by the style and content.

In reply to James Edwards:
I'm listening to it now on radio 4 site.
How far into the programme does Andy speak at?
James

In reply to james oswald: if you follow the link to the UKC news site you'll get just the snipped of AK on Radio4

wheras the world service is about 2/3 or 3/4 of the way through the programme (and much more worthwile to listen to)

In reply to gingerdave13:
Found it thanks!

In reply to James Edwards:
There's no such thing as a ridiculous and pointless cliff!!
:P

In reply to andy kirkpatrick: The world service interview was much better. You were actually given some time to speak. Well done.

In reply to James Edwards:
Which are they referring to as the hardest rock route in the world?

In reply to James Edwards: " would have thought that the evening repeat will have edited out all Andy's scatergraphic comments"

I've just listened to the excerpt from Midweek linked to from the UKC news item and there was nothing remotely scatological in it. Am I to assume that this excerpt was edited? It all seemed to go very well to me, with both parties attempting to keep the conversation reasonably light.

In reply to Alan James - UKC:

I don't think it is. There is certainly more awareness of the condition, and indeed there has been in the last few years a nasty habit of 'labelling' kids as James Edwards points out below - although I would agrue that this itself is a little outdated - there is an increasing reluctance among Education Psychologists to label conditions as it can bring about the stigma I mentioned above. You can help support kids with their problems just as easily without putting a name on it that with doing so.

Even so, the support is often pretty limited, and focused around a few easy win areas rather than giving the skills to help in life. THis is without the problem that once you have left the education system you are on your own - if you can't spell, you can't spell, and an employers doesn't really care why.

But as noted, we digest...

In reply to James Edwards:
Listened to both and the world service interview is far more interesting as he is given more time to talk.

In reply to The Bantam: D'ya hear about the dyslexic pimp?


He bought a warehouse.

In reply to practicalcat: world service is the best radio broadcast on the planet!!

In reply to James Edwards: The second interview was much better.

"If you have to step over a dead body, it's a walk."

Made me laugh for some reason, maybe it's your voice.

In reply to James Edwards: I have yet to listen to the broadcast, but I've seen one of AK's talks and read his book. He's very, very funny. I was expecting someone who was funny for a mountaineer, but if he'd been billed as a comedian I wouldn't have been disappointed.

On reading his book, it's clear that dyslexia has been a massive hurdle for him to overcome. I found the bit about him writing his first piece for a climbing magazine incredibly inspiring.

And hey, it's his life; if he wants to "go on about it" it's up to him.

In reply to andy kirkpatrick:

"It's an act of worship to climb a mountain"

So nicely put.

In reply to Jonno:
>Home Counties chattering classes discussing Greek Philosophers, Mini ISA's, Great Crested newts

Actually that's exactly what I like about it. Probably dangerously fact-based for you though Jonno.

That said, Midweek is a bit of a low point. Too self-consciously middle-brow and not the most comfortable place for Andy, nothwithstanding the book-plugging.

In reply to Dave Garnett:


<grin>

There's always some little gem when you're not expecting it - I learnt a couple of things about robins, this morning, while waiting for Andy to come on.