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Why do climbers shun Crafnant ?

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Jonno 28 May 2009

Surely THE most beautiful climbing venue in North Wales and with such an array of quality climbing. I was up there last bank holiday weekend and despite the tourists in the valley,not one party to be seen on the crags !!!

I think it's that well known ailment that most climbers suffer from. 'Honeypot tunnel vision syndrome'. Not dissimilar to 'Climbers Sheep syndrome'. Why have a crag,nay an entire cwm to yourself when you can Q up with the masses at Tremadog !

http://www.ambassadorsnorthwales.co.uk/images/crafnant.jpg

http://www.old-picture.com/europe/pictures/Crafnant-Lyn.jpg

Different Steve 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

Er... could it be the grades? A quick snout on the crags search suggests 2 or 3 routes up to HVS and then its pretty much E2 and above.

Is the grade range wider than that?

Andy Hardy 28 May 2009

In reply to Different Steve:

SH wall is home to the hard stuff, but there is shedloads at the easier grades. The CC website now has the mynydd guide online (I think); but it was only £5.99 from Joe's in Capel in any case.

Rich Kirby 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

> I was up there last bank holiday weekend and despite the tourists in the valley,not one party to be seen on the crags !!!

I bet you'd not been until the ground up, NW select guide came out Crafnant is a lovely crag. Thankfully there are plenty of other crags in equally stunning surroundings that don't attract the hordes. We went to Craig Dorys on the Lleyn which was the same. One other party on the crag.

GrahamD 28 May 2009

In reply to 999thAndy:

I'm sure many climbers have never heard of the place and the Crafnant guidebook is not that readily available.

Al Evans 28 May 2009

In reply to GrahamD: Completely untrue, you can get it free from the CC as a pdf from here
http://www.climbers-club.co.uk/downloads/Cwm_Crafnant.pdf

mikeski 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

Never actually heard of it before and I've done a fair bit in North wales

Will have to get the selective guide and check the place out.

Then again, if it's going to be warm and dry this summer there is loads of stuff that's normally wet that I want to do.

d_b 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

Because I had never heard of it. Now that I have I will pay the place a visit.

Andy Hardy 28 May 2009

In reply to mikeski:

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> Then again, if it's going to be warm and dry this summer there is loads of stuff that's normally wet that I want to do.

I have climbed in the Crafnant in a t-shirt, roasting myself to my usual lobster redness when mates have been getting p1ssed on in the pass and on Cloggy. (mind you the midges can be bad)

Mick Ward 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

> Surely THE most beautiful climbing venue in North Wales...

Agreed.

Mick

d_b 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno: I downloaded the guidebook and had a look.

Anywhere with a "repulsively severe" route called Bog Meander gets my vote

martin heywood 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

Why have a crag,nay an entire cwm to yourself when you can Q up with the masses at Tremadog !

You mean Q up with the masses for Christmas Curry and One Step In The Clouds.

Bulls Crack 28 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

Because I've been spanked on Snowdrop

silo 29 May 2009

In reply to Jonno:

> Surely THE most beautiful climbing venue in North Wales and with such an array of quality climbing. I was up there last bank holiday weekend and despite the tourists in the valley,not one party to be seen on the crags !!!
>
> I think it's that well known ailment that most climbers suffer from. 'Honeypot tunnel vision syndrome'. Not dissimilar to 'Climbers Sheep syndrome'. Why have a crag,nay an entire cwm to yourself when you can Q up with the masses at Tremadog !
>
> http://www.ambassadorsnorthwales.co.uk/images/crafnant.jpg
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> http://www.old-picture.com/europe/pictures/Crafnant-Lyn.jpg

If i were you I'd keep it to your self!why would want more climbers descending there,Or do you have said syndrome.