In reply to DEvans:
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> > the grades are soft in kalymnos are they not. its still a good weeks climbing though.
you been there? yes it has that reputation but things have settled down a bit and they are now close to benchmark....yes you could probably knock a grade of most routes there to bring them in line with old school crags like Siurana, but they are not miles off.
interesting point about Akira....i thought it was a fairly uninspiring route being basically an extended boulder problem in a fairly grotty cave but i could be wrong....is it 100% natural? Also interesting that Hugh has had 3 repeats, so good to see people getting Fred's hard routes.