In reply to duncan:
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> Is this the true line of Bird of Paradise?
Basically no, that's two routes to the left of Paradise Lost. This new thing is one to the right of the direct on its first pitch.
> If so, I have a confession to make!
Feel free to go ahead anyway, that never stops most people on UKC, ...
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> THE last great problem in sport terms perhaps, but there's line down the gorge a bit that should go at around F8a-8a+ on spaced natural gear...
I stand by what I said. Last great as in visible from the road and obvious, not as in the corrie head wall which perpective obscures, and you have to study the guidebook to work out what's what. I'm sure the exposed high wall proj's great, but you used to have to say: "it's the thing up there that's not the E7 rising thing nor either of the two E5s nor the E6, With it you can't just point and go, that roof, that wall right of that groove. Needs doing. Like you could do with the Bristol Paradise new thing when it was a project. It's good, but reading the guidebook it could just end up being called Hallucinations Direct. Another great route on the headwall nobody bothers to abseil down.
I also have to express my maximum respect to Chris to him for (possibly unwittingly - the sign of greatness) sticking two thumbs up to all those f*cking Milton references and variations. Though I do love the grandiose names being attributed to obviously (and actually) great routes, without having to delve in to all the literary baggage.
Moving on. What other roofs are left for savage? Ally, do you know what the hell's Fred done with his keys, and do you agree that now after pretty much 3 years,they should be surrendered or ignored?