In reply to snoop6060: it's a ten metre route, my memory of eyeballing it is that the cam out of shot on this pic is about 2/3 height and there's a nasty slabby bit directly bewlow the finish which is typically padded out with a mat these days. As you can see here though that wouldn't prevent a really nasty fall though... http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=2271