In reply to Rob15:
> (In reply to Blue Straggler)or indeed would that be hardest trad route in the world full stop? i remember reading somewhere that the cracks on that route were too small for most male climbers to get finger locks in, thoguh i may be thinking of something different....
It was probably that route, but the reports at the time were almost self-deprecating, and in any case it was admitted that only someone as short as Beth would NEED those finger locks, as yer average man had the reach to get around those moves using different holds.
I don't think Tommy or Beth or any of "their people" have staked any claim on it being the hardest trad route in the world - iirc they gave it a tentative 5.14d pending a suitable number of repeat ascents. I think there are 5.15 routes in existence though.