In reply to Calum Nicoll:
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> Does UKC check landowners are OK with publicising areas before you run stories on them, for example, when reporting new routes?
Good point. No we don't.
The majority of areas that are covered editorially or in the news are well established climbing areas. I think maybe we should if they are new areas, or maybe not publish where they are until we assured that access is fine.
The emphasis however, in regards to new areas, is on those who found the area. They should not publish anything, print or web, until they have talked to the land owner/manager and checked that it is OK.
I'll give you a small example how this can go wrong that I heard recently. A Belgium website published a destination guide to a small and new climbing area in Belgium. 15-20 or so sport routes of high quality. Climbers descended on the area en masse.
Climbers car camped and partied by the crag, it was a small rural area. The locals were aghast at what had happened. Roads were blocked, noise was loud, daily life was disrupted.
The land owners asked for the article to be taken off the web. It was. I'm not sure of the access situation now, maybe you can climb there in small numbers. But mass publicity, like videos, can cause problems.
Another example. 1996. I'm in Bishop. New areas are being discovered. I write guides/articles etc to direct climbers to areas. Before I did anything I contacted the local land managers, told them bouldering is popular, things will be published by people, including me, be ready, what can we do.
A plan was implemented, local climbers and local groups work with local land managers. Today, some areas are published - videos, guidebooks etc - others are not, but you can still climb at these 'others' ... if you can find out where they are .... not easy without guides, local knowledghe, videos, articles etc...
Do we have a right to climb anywhere? I hope so. But we must always tread lightly and thoughtfully.